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Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
Hey everyone. My friends and I are very into the medieval world, part of the reason we love LOTR. My friends and I have made a few movies, computer edited and all, mostly medieval, with swords, costumes, helmets, and all. We mostly make our own stuff. Wooden spray painted swords, 2 spary painted KFC chick buckets together with holes cut in them as helmets, and corny movie ideas!

Anyway, we have started recently to purchase real swords, mostly off ebay. I own a 23 1.2" decorated Excallibur sword and scabbard, 4 of my friends own the same sword. One also has a 12" throwing axe, a 3' axe, a helmet, and a 36" broad sword. I also own a decorated 3' scimitar from the 1800's. So as you can see, we are putting together a small armoury of weapons and a good wardrobe of costumes, capes, tunics, gauntlets, etc.

So this thread is all about peoples fantizations with swords, medieval movie watching/making, and the Lord of the Rings!
 
Posted by Neytari Took-Baggins (Citizen # 490) on :
 
Dude, my cousin got an AWESOME sword for only twenty dollars. I WANT ONE! I can't remember a time when I didn't like medieval stuff...Dragonheart was the first movie I bought with my own money (back when I only got a dollar a week)....
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
Man, a dollar a week, you must've been saving for months! I've always been crazy about medieval stuff. My friend's 36" broad sword (huge) only cost him 10 bucks plus shipping. I just love medieval stuff, we've made soo many homemade medieval movies. I remember last march, a bunch of the guys got together, now he isn't the brightest, he's a great guitar player, but for anything else he's VERY slow. So they were doin a quick FOTR movie. Well, he played the Balrog, so when Gandalf chanenges him, (if you turn up the volume) you hear him say "Jeremy, what's my line?"
"Roar"
"oh, ok, Roar!!!"

Anyway, that's got something to do with the movie I'm making currently (check the Other Tolkien Productions - New Hobbit movie -

So there you go, I'm crazy about anything medieval, anyone else?
 
Posted by Neytari Took-Baggins (Citizen # 490) on :
 
Awesomeness!
I found the store my cousin got his sword from: Clickityclickclick
 
Posted by Arnkell (Citizen # 3864) on :
 
Most decorated swords are made from bad metal that makes the blade too heavy and unbalanced, and the tang going through the handle is weak, making the blade a potential projectile-weapon if swung.

I'd be plenty careful if I were you, guys.

Also, many "authentic" old eBay-swords are just new, crappy knockoffs bathed in salt-water for a chosen amount of time.
 
Posted by Nerivarya (Citizen # 3570) on :
 
Okay. You guys rock. I love midieval stuff. Do you guys know about the SCA(aka society for creative anachronism)? I don't know if you guys live in the "Known World" but if you do, You'll love it. We choose a persona from between 600 and 1600 and go to events and become that person. It's real cool. Here's the link: The Society for Creative Anachronism

I'm getting a sword. I don't know if I can find what I want cheap though. But if you can find what you want, go for it. just make sure you check everything out and are careful about what you buy.
 
Posted by Talan (Citizen # 2413) on :
 
Those are all decorative blades, and thus very cheap and poorly crafted. Any sword or dagger blade made of stainless steel is practically worthless except as a cheap wall decoration. Don't go trying to play with those things...like Arknell said, they might come apart and hurt somebody.
 
Posted by Neytari Took-Baggins (Citizen # 490) on :
 
Well, it's not like I have anyone to play with, so it'll be for my personal pleasure. But thanks a lot for the precautions. I had no idea.
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
Although I wish I could claim knowledge of good sword materials, I actually have little knowledge in sword making. I am fairly skilled with a blade, for one who hasn't taken lessons, although I find myself better at archery. Can anyone tell me what a quality sword would be made from?

P.S. I think Saumari swords are wimpy, not many people want one, you can buy dozens off eBay for less than 3 dollars each!
 
Posted by Eowyn of the Muffindell (Citizen # 3965) on :
 
You lucky lucky people....I think I'll just go steal one of your swords! The closest I ever came to buying an actual sword was Glamdring at the Renaissance Faire(it's kinda self-explanitary) that someone had made....but you should've seen the price!! So I ended up making my own out of wood...*blushes* it's the best I could do with a roll of duct tape! Next goal....bow and arrows!!
 
Posted by Kjartan Fløgelfrikk (Citizen # 3302) on :
 
www.vikingsword.com

www.living-history.no/Midgaard%20Mercentile/indexmm.html
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
I've got 2 bows, a medium one and a large one. And I would like to buy a LOTR sword, but they cost about 4 or 5 hundred dollars!
 
Posted by Kjartan Fløgelfrikk (Citizen # 3302) on :
 
www.swordforum.com
 
Posted by Dianthelle Queen of Spies (Citizen # 2566) on :
 
Heeheehee, I have a rusty ol' sword from the Civil War. I also have a crossbow, and an axe. Lol, I'm thinking about posing in my medieval princess dress with the sword, and taking pictures for MT.

...Um, I like to write fantasy. I have a whole fantasy trilogy i've been working on for about two years now. I've ven drawn maps and made seals, yes I know I have no life...
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
That's cool. I'm starting to put together a fantasy book as well, although it's still "up here" not on paper yet. I've got a friend who's been working on a book of her's for a few years. It's about a girl named Austra, but as far as I know, there aren't any orcs or dragons in it.
 
Posted by Dianthelle Queen of Spies (Citizen # 2566) on :
 
LOL, I know EXACTLY what you mean by 'up here'. Half my trilogy is in my head...sheesh, I did calculations the other day and approximitely 68% of my characters die. Sad, isn't it...? [] []
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
68%? That's crazy! But are they mostly good guys or bad guys?
 
Posted by Nerivarya (Citizen # 3570) on :
 
It's good to have sad endings. there are too many writers, and readers, out there who think the only good story is one with a happy go lucky ending. [] Though I must say, some of the good characters need to live, at least one or two...
 
Posted by Talan (Citizen # 2413) on :
 
Good news! I'd like to share a site with you weapon enthusiasts...they sell highly affordable high-carbon blades...in layman's terms, good steel. Some of their swords are stainless and just for display...however, they have good, functional swords for under 50 dollars...

budk knives

[ 10-15-2003, 10:07 PM: Message edited by: Talan ]
 
Posted by Neytari Took-Baggins (Citizen # 490) on :
 
*GASP* I LOVE YOU!!!
 
Posted by Moriaking (Citizen # 3132) on :
 
hello. i saw you were talking about swords. can i post?
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
Sure, of course you can post! I'm weird, I find myself wanting the bad guys winning alot! []
 
Posted by Dianthelle Queen of Spies (Citizen # 2566) on :
 
Bad AND Good, semi bad semi good, wow I have problems. Heeheehee. *Embraces Talan* You are my idol!!!!!!
 
Posted by Aoife (Citizen # 2368) on :
 
Have any of you bought from museumreplicas.com? They have great battle-ready swords, knives, armour, etc. Sometimes it's pricey, but you can also get great stuff on sale. They're a subsidiary company of Atlanta Cutlery, which also makes great weapons.

I bought my first sword from the Noble Collection--big mistake. No balance, and good for nothing but to hang on the wall. If you're doing the RingWar and just need a weapon for looks, it doesn't matter. But, I think it's just too cool to have a beautiful, balanced weapon. Some are works of art. I have 2 katanas and a tanto, a bastard sword, a quarter staff, and a baseball bat that my husband insists on placing next to my weapons:)

I've always loved medieval history. In fact, I love it so much that I got my degree in medieval english history--a subject of amusement to my friends who asked continually, "now what are you going to do with that?"
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
What are you guy's favorite medieval movies? I got to many to name. I also love Monty Python and the Holy Grail? Anyone else?
 
Posted by Sauron's Secret Agent (Citizen # 1891) on :
 
Medieval history is my absolute favourite! I read all I can about it.

Have any of you read/seen the Cadfael series? Amazing stuff.

Lol - Holy Grail is wonderful - but do you feel it is quite realistic? []
 
Posted by Kjartan Fløgelfrikk (Citizen # 3302) on :
 
Problem with a lot of medieval films is that they're so unrealistic and too "hollywood". Holy Grail of course doesn't count, it's just a laugh. But when the movie companies butcher old stories/myths/whatever like they did with Beowulf (Beowulf and the 13th warrior) I begin to lose hope that there are reliable filmmakers out there.
But I know there are films that are good, or realistic at least, and there was much rejoycing. []
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
I agree, when I was youger, I read the series of books including "The Black Cauldron." I thought that was a good series. I later saw the Disney movie, and man, did they ever wreck it! I'm certainly glad that PJ didn't ruin LOTR completely. Btw, has anyone else read the Redwall series?
 
Posted by Fabian (Citizen # 1948) on :
 
Wasn't the 13:th warrior actually based on a book which was in turn based on Beowulf?
I should find that book and read it. Maybe it's better...
 
Posted by Kjartan Fløgelfrikk (Citizen # 3302) on :
 
13th warrior was a mix of many things from norse and anglo-saxon litterature, mixed with the arabian chronicles.


Don't mix your drugs.
 
Posted by Dianthelle Queen of Spies (Citizen # 2566) on :
 
[] to the 13th warrior. I loathed that movie!

*Ducks to avoid the flying projectiles*
 
Posted by Talan (Citizen # 2413) on :
 
Don't feel bad, Dian. I hated it too.
 
Posted by Kjartan Fløgelfrikk (Citizen # 3302) on :
 
It was truly a disappointment. Here I was, expecting a big budget serious viking movie.
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
haven't seen that one yet, I'll rent it this week!
 
Posted by She-Elf (Citizen # 2259) on :
 
[] DON'T!!! It's aserious waist of money! It's really awefull!
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
I wanna see the movie "Timeline." That looks interesting. The guy goes back to like 1375 A.D. for some reason.
 
Posted by Éoric of the Riddermark (Citizen # 2302) on :
 
I've studied the 14th century quite a bit, so I'm curious to see how accurate Timeline is with clothing, arms & armour, etc. I don't have very high hopes. That's disappointing, because one of the major themes of the novel is how most people grossly misunderstand the Middle Ages because of bad movies, books, pseudo-historical novels, etc.

And here's my advice on The Thirteenth Warrior: I actually recommend you see it! You should ignore 95% of the clothing and armour and weapons all the main people wear or use, but IMHO it really captures the "feel" of the era pretty well.

Oh, and the movie was based on Michael Crichton's book Eaters of the Dead, which he based loosely on the Beowulf stories and the accounts of an Arab traveller (ibn Fadlan) who chronicled his contact with the Rus (Norsemen) who he met at the Bulgar capital. He basically wanted to sort of mix those stories up and present one possible "real" scenario that gave rise to legends like Beowulf.
 
Posted by Éomer (Citizen # 2824) on :
 
Personally, I too liked The 13th Warrior. Not the best movie ever, but it wasn't terrible.

Medieval history's pretty interesting, though my primary area of interest lies in ancient European history (Rome, classical and Mycenaean Greece, etc.) and Chinese history.

Wait...so what am I doing here, you ask? In the immortal words of Fighter: "I like swords." []
 
Posted by Lord Glorfindel (Citizen # 3110) on :
 
www.blades-uk.com for all you Engerlanders, Scottlanders etc
 
Posted by Aragorn Wingfoot (Citizen # 475) on :
 
I recently read the 13th warrior and liked it all right. Micheal Crighton has an interesting writing style in that book. Never saw the movie, looked stupid, but the book was 25 cents so i got it. Not too bad.

I read Timeline also, the book was great but I've heard the movie was stupido. I do plan on seeing it though.

Also, i have 3 swords (all lovely ) and around 10 daggers.
my favorite sword sites are www.kultofathena.com and arms of valour

[ 12-02-2003, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: Aragorn Wingfoot ]
 
Posted by Snowdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
Aragorn, good links! []
 
Posted by Ninja of Higure (Citizen # 5034) on :
 
Medieval is really cool. I've gone to countless rennaisance fairs, but up until now I haven't had the money to buy any large weapons. Mostly I stick with Feudal Japan, which is where my greatest interest lies.
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
I've recently bought a Samurai sword off of eBay. It's a 39.75 inch katana. I got it for only $7.53 Canadian! But it's the shipping that kills ya. If you're looking for practical weaponry and armour, go to By The Sword. I've found it very useful and have bought several items from them. The Renaissance Store is another good site I found.
 
Posted by Silvanis (Citizen # 4926) on :
 
if you want cheap swords go to 5stardeal.com its a very good and cheap place

i have bought most of my swords there
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
Question: How do you register? I couldn't find a link to a Sign-up page.
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
Yeah medieval weapons are pretty cool i have 4 british longbows (one actually used in he battle of Agincourt 1415) but its in a special case because the wood might rot and i have two katanas i also like Fedual Japan and i have 7 daggers and 3 short swords
 
Posted by Silvanis (Citizen # 4926) on :
 
NEVER TRY TO MAKE A BOW IT WILL TURN OUT REALLY BAD *think of how bad his bow is* i was really bored one day...
 
Posted by Celebrían (Citizen # 2057) on :
 
Were you making it out of wood, Silvanis? What wood were you using?
My father had a frustrating time making the curved back of a Windsor-type chair. The process of soaking the wood in warmed water, in order to bend it, can produce quite random results.

[ 03-06-2005, 06:33 PM: Message edited by: Celebrían ]
 
Posted by Silvanis (Citizen # 4926) on :
 
ya i was making it out of wood but i dont know which wood and i didnt try to soak it in water cause the wood bent just fine for the string i used fishing wire it worked pritty good but i had to keep tighting it because it keept getting losser every shot
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
So I suppose you couldn't tell me how to register at 5 Star?
 
Posted by Silvanis (Citizen # 4926) on :
 
my bro registered there ill ask him sorry i just went there and i bought swords ill tell you as soon as i find out
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
Out of all Medieval weapons my favorite are
1. British Longbow
2. Trebuchet the coolest seige weapon of all time
3. Spanish Longswords
 
Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
My favorite Medievel weapon would have to be the Crucifix. []

I banish thee to the flames of Lucifer in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit!!!!

[] [] [] [] []
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
My faith condems that weapon along with anything else that does not involve going to mass

[ 06-15-2005, 08:42 PM: Message edited by: Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas ]
 
Posted by Silmahtar (Citizen # 4806) on :
 

 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
What do you think the best Medieval movies were I think
1. Braveheart
2. Robin Hood
3. Robin Hood Men in tights
 
Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
Mine are:
1. King Arthur(Director's Cut)
2. BraveHeart(Love that movie)
3. And any other Medieval movie that has something to do with Catholicism.... []
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
I didnt see the new King Arthur yet or Kingdom of Heaven so i didnt judge them
 
Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
Oh, yeah.... I forgot about Kingdom of Heaven. I watched that like last month. I thought it was really good because it involved Catholicism. []
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
TH you and your damn catholicism im a catholic and i love it but to much mass

[ 06-20-2005, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas ]
 
Posted by Silmahtar (Citizen # 4806) on :
 
* wonders if this is the first instance of a religious debate ever emerging in the Fantasy Games thread... *

[ 06-20-2005, 11:02 PM: Message edited by: Silmahtar ]
 
Posted by Éomer (Citizen # 2824) on :
 
I don't care what those damned orcs say, Gruumsh is a terrible influence on the world! He and his evil disciples must be wiped out! [] []

Praise Corellon Larethian! [] [] []
 
Posted by Silmahtar (Citizen # 4806) on :
 
That makes two...

Damn zombie cultists! []
 
Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
Very smooth for a catholic, as you claim you are, to say a thing like that Joe . Very smooth......... []
 
Posted by Thingol of Doriath (Citizen # 2718) on :
 
Most of this page is like watching Forrest Gump talk with Bubba... []
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Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
I see... []
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
Very Funny Thingol Of Doriath

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Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
What do u think the most powerful post-Roman civilization was
My guess was Either the Saracens or the British but the French were a force to be reckoned with even though none of us are used to hearing that
 
Posted by Éoric of the Riddermark (Citizen # 2302) on :
 
That's an awfully vague question. And the British when? The French when?

But for your consideration: Take a look at the size of the Mongol Empire, and consider that it was forged without the benefit of a navy or gunpowder. []

[ 07-01-2005, 11:45 AM: Message edited by: Éoric of the Riddermark ]
 
Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
I love the French and the British! The French for their sexuality and the British for their humor! []
 
Posted by Silmahtar (Citizen # 4806) on :
 
quote:
I love the French and the British! The French for their sexuality and the British for their humor!
TH, didn't you say you were British??

C'mon. Out with it. What's your deal?

[ 07-01-2005, 10:16 PM: Message edited by: Silmahtar ]
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
quote:
The French for their sexuality
I dont know about you TH but I do no find women with hairy armpits attractive I am an American and I was born to hate the French.
** Those who are French please take no offense I am just another loud mouthed American and damn proud**

[ 07-02-2005, 08:34 PM: Message edited by: Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas ]
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
Well actualy Eoric The Mongols did have a navy they tried to invade Japan in 1281 during typhoon season thats when the word Kamakize came ito effect which means divine wind. and as for gunpowder they did use it on the Chinese thy used it open holes into the wall and then send their calvary archers or Mangudai's in to finish the battle off
 
Posted by Éomer (Citizen # 2824) on :
 
quote:
I am an American and I was born to hate the French.
As an American, shouldn't you have been born to like the people who made it possible for the United States to even exist? []

Oh, excuse me, that's something Colonial, not Medieval. Apologies for going off-topic. []
 
Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
Well for your information, I am both French and English. You have offended me and left me no choice. *Pulls out pink hankerchief and slaps everyone with it* []
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
quote:
and as for gunpowder they did use it on the Chinese thy used it open holes into the wall and then send their calvary archers or Mangudai's in to finish the battle off
If I remember correctly, the Mongols bribed one of the gate guards and got their entire army into China without setting off the fires down the entire wall.
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
The French did nothing to start America
 
Posted by Mad Uncle Rupert (Citizen # 1148) on :
 
I told you there were people who disliked the French more than me.
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
actually the battle betwen the Mongols and the Chinese in gunpowder was asalemate because the Chinese only had limited gunpowder weapons then te Mongols hired Turkish engineers and then used gunpowder to destroy walls and then on the inner walls thet bribed the guards so in a sense we were both correct
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
Well then Mad Uncle Rupert we have something in common
hatred of the french

[ 07-02-2005, 09:09 PM: Message edited by: Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas ]
 
Posted by Éomer (Citizen # 2824) on :
 
quote:
The French did nothing to start America
How ignorant the youth of my country is today. Brings a tear to this American eye. []
 
Posted by Hidalgo (Citizen # 1083) on :
 
quote:
The French did nothing to start America
Other than supplying you with money, ammunition and weapons, beating the British navy in Chesapeake Bay, and forcing the British to deploy troops all over the world instead of concentrating them in America, you mean?
 
Posted by Mad Uncle Rupert (Citizen # 1148) on :
 
But the French did it for their own purposes, so it doesn't count.

King Stupid, I don't think we have anything in common, at least in this.

[ 07-03-2005, 11:49 AM: Message edited by: Mad Uncle Rupert ]
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
Hidalgo That did not start America though it helped.
 
Posted by Hidalgo (Citizen # 1083) on :
 
They didn't start America, but they did something to start it. And sure, they had their own reasons for it, but that doesn't alter the fact.
 
Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
The French kick ass!!!! []
 
Posted by Sam Gamgee (Citizen # 2395) on :
 
Anywho, back to the subject, this is a very cool weapon. (Click on the picture for a larger version) It features four 9" sharpened blades. It's called Critical Mass. King Of Swords (formerly Empire Swords) is a very cool site for weapons. All (or most) of their swords come sharpened.

[ 07-03-2005, 06:23 PM: Message edited by: Sam Gamgee ]
 
Posted by Theoden Horsemaster (Citizen # 5009) on :
 
Ah, yes. Very nice. []
 
Posted by Éoric of the Riddermark (Citizen # 2302) on :
 
Two things:

JSKoB: I'm aware of the Mongol attempts (there were actually two) to invade Japan. But since they did not conquer Japan, and it was not absorbed into the Mongol Empire, it is accurate to say that the Mongols carved the Mongol Empire without the use of a navy. []

Second, when I spoke of gunpowder, I meant that the Mongols did not use it as a weapon (in the way the French and British later would). A siege instrument is another matter...
 
Posted by Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas (Citizen # 5059) on :
 
Yes I know and I'm sorry if I sounded like a jerk trying to prove you wrong (unlike some people) I understand your point Eoric

[ 07-20-2005, 10:10 PM: Message edited by: Joe Stupid KingofBelfalas ]
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
The mini-series The Vikings was quite entertaining!

Enjoyed seeing some of the New Varangian Guard in action in July! They take their re-enactment seriously.
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
A new season of Game of Thrones is coming soon!
 


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