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Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
This thread is the place to discuss all that the trump administration will do over the next four years. It's somewhere the trump supporters, whether they admit to voting for the Republican's choice of a candidate for President or not, to try and justify their choice. They got their guy.... They will be held accountable for it.

Since you trumpshirts are too chicken, or maybe don't know how to start a thread for your guy. Here it is.

I still cant see how so many dolts were taken in and actually voted for this guy. No ethics, nepotism, thin skinned, Russian puppet.

[ 01-29-2017, 07:22 PM: Message edited by: Snöwdog ]
 
Posted by Aiwrendel (Citizen # 965) on :
 
I liked the tone of your introduction to this thread. It seemed to encourage calm and fair discussion in future posts. Great start! [] But I must take exception with calling half the voters disparaging names and especially referring to them as Nazis.
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With trump, all formerly common considerations that a President had to work within are out the window and we move into uncharted territory.
I like that. This presidency will be different. I’m sick of career politicians running this country into the ground for their own benefit. We, on this forum, are aware of the nature of ultra-ambitious humans and well know their behavior from our experiences and reading (including LOTR.) They are highly intelligent, resolute, and often determined. Who would you want running the country? The persons who owe favors to corporations, special interest groups, Saudi Arabia, etc., those who have the baggage of having to reward and repay “donations” and “gifts”, or one who has made a fortune without catering to the whims of others and owes NO ONE for the fortunes acquired in life? Someone who puts the good of the country before his wallet.

My next post will be about the perception that Trump is a Nazi. If anyone cares to repeat the meticulous research I conducted in the 10 months before the election and find the truth, please post your findings here.
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
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But I must take exception with calling half the voters disparaging names and especially referring to them as Nazis.
Exception, and your expressed perception, noted. You could have started this thread yourself and framed it any way you liked. You didn't. So... yeah.

You had me laughing with the bit you took time to emphasize in bold. Do you seriously think that trump and his shirts are putting the country ahead of his wallet? Seriously? I thought you were wiser that that. Oh well. Again, duly noted. []

My next post, should I decide it is worthy of the three people that actually show up here, will list the people trump is proposing to head various government departments and their "qualifications". I'll close in saying that if anyone voted for trump thinking he is going to look out for anyone but himself, well, you been bamboozled. The ideology has been chosen.
 
Posted by The Flammifer (Citizen # 11407) on :
 
Aw, so serious you two. Give peace a chance! []

How's about a lighthearted chuckle courtesy of one of Snowdog's (now scum and bamboozled) deplorable white racist morons. (Watch it! He's learning new words folks!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sW85ZcswiqM&feature=youtu.be

[ 12-02-2016, 08:25 PM: Message edited by: The Flammifer ]
 
Posted by Aiwrendel (Citizen # 965) on :
 
Oh, stop it you two. As Snöwdog said there are only three of us so we might as well get along. []

We should be serious. This is a huge change in our political system (at least at the top of the system.) We need to see, and diligently watch, what becomes of this grass roots “revolution” against the status quo.

Flammifer , Cute video. Some parts were encouraging and even inspiring but in an “in your face” manner. I’m not a fan of gloating especially when the results are not yet in. It seems counterproductive. I also don’t care for sullying Christmas songs. But that’s me.

I believe for the first time in decades the USA will stop its decline and prosper. We need to get down to business. But as good citizens we must be diligent. And in the spirit of the citizens of the USA, Australia, and many other countries who have rebelled against those in power who would use the people for their own gain, we will watch them and assure they work for our benefit. Time will tell.

*falls off soap box tripped by his own run on sentence.* []

And yes, I believe Trump (with a capital T [] ) at age 70 wants to give something back to the country that gave him the opportunity to turn 1 million into 10 billion through hard work. Now, where’s my 1 million so I have a chance? []
 
Posted by The Flammifer (Citizen # 11407) on :
 
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Aiwrendel: Oh, stop it you two. As Snöwdog said there are only three of us so we might as well get along. []
It’s kind of you to attempt to be the arbiter here. [] And we should all attempt to get along. Yet the vehement, loathsome, insultive, and childish words of Snowdog should not be allowed to slide unnoticed. Yes America is a free-speech country and obnoxiousness is apparently freely allowed on this site, but it needs to be addressed IMO in the somewhat fruitless hope that this person may discover that to offend half the population with his unnecessary and vile rhetoric has its consequences, and his points could be made quite easily without his repulsive wording.

Which I paraphrase here:
”Anyone who voted for Fvckface Von Clownstick is scum, and a bamboozled deplorable white racist moron.”
The wording is HIS, the sentence structure is mine.

And yes, as you have noticed, he never (or very seldom) capitalizes Trump, but always Clinton. My how childish!
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'm glad I give the [] [] hours of entertainment. It needs something to do with its life. [] []

As for the Don... well, I guess he farmed out all the work to the sack of cronies he wants to appoint so he can watch
Saturday Night Live and bitch about it on twitter. Tweeter-in Chief.

And the random phone calls to and from world leaders.... there is just too much. To date, Trump has picked an Attorney General who doesn’t believe in the Voting Rights Act; a Secretary of Heath and Human Services who doesn’t believe in government-provided health insurance; a Treasury Secretary who wants to “strip back” the Dodd-Frank Act, designed to prevent another bank meltdown; a Secretary of Education who’s against public schools; and, now, a Secretary of Housing and Urban Development who doesn’t believe in the Fair Housing Act.

Perhaps I’m old-fashioned, but I don’t think the Senate should confirm people who are on record as being against the laws they have a constitutional duty to implement. But wait, we're talking Mitch here.

Anyway, Good Luck Aiw. I'll look forward to reading what you have to say here (even the Monty Python clips).

[ 12-05-2016, 11:12 AM: Message edited by: Snöwdog ]
 
Posted by Aiwrendel (Citizen # 965) on :
 
I'll just leave this here.

A place to argue
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
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I'll just leave this here.

A place to argue

Is not. []
 
Posted by Aiwrendel (Citizen # 965) on :
 
[]
 
Posted by Aiwrendel (Citizen # 965) on :
 
Because this election wasn't about the same old thing with the same old career politicians it caught my attention like no other. And because I didn't like either of the final candidates I read hundreds of pages about both of them from many sources. I felt it was my duty as a citizen. It was grueling but well worth it.

Here is one site that adds some perspective.


Crying Wolf
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
So Aiwrendel, what do you think of the Don's cabinet picks so far?
 
Posted by Aiwrendel (Citizen # 965) on :
 
I haven't done much research on them yet. I guess because, unlike the election where I had at least one vote, I have no control over who he picks. Most of what I've read is from the main stream media and we all know how useless they are for reporting actual facts without twisting them into biased opinions for the sake of ratings.
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
Nothing? Oh well.
 
Posted by Aiwrendel (Citizen # 965) on :
 
We could discuss the Trump presidency. That’s why the two of us (only two? [] ) are here. Even though he won’t be inaugurated for another month he’s already made economic changes, albeit small, for the benefit of American workers. He has saved jobs that were going to be shipped to other countries. How can he do that? He has yet no power. Or does he?

I remain very cautiously optimistically as I have been for the last year. Wait and see.
 
Posted by Tigranes (Citizen # 9076) on :
 
So, Snöwdog, on a scale of 1 to 10, how embarrassing would you say your previous remarks about Trump voters are, in light of the facts and figures provided by the article that Aiwrendel linked?

By the way, "von" is never capitalized, unless it's the very first word of a sentence.
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
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Tigraines said: "So, Snöwdog, on a scale of 1 to 10, how embarrassing would you say your previous remarks about Trump voters are, in light of the facts and figures provided by the article that Aiwrendel linked?

By the way, "von" is never capitalized, unless it's the very first word of a sentence."

Hmm... this all would seem fitting for the 'election' thread, but I guess you all want to bring it here because there is little you want to say about the post election choices that your president elect is making. Whatevz.

I do like the fact folks here seem so damned concerned about when and where and what I capitalise. That cracks me up. []

On your scaling of my embarrassment, I'm not sure which way your scale works as it was undefined. Is 1 or 10 not embarrassed at all? Whichever it is, I pick the 'not embarrassed at all' end of the scale. I stand by what I said previously (in the way I said it, not how [] [] tries to say it for me [] ). A choice was made to stand in the same swamp as the racists and the misogynists, and this choice was freely made by each and every one, and those who made that choice will have to live with it. You all know who you are, and it has been quite easy for me to know who you are since the election. I wish you all well with your choice. []

Now back to the Don Presidency....

It appears that a CIA assessment has concludes Russian interference aimed to elect Trump. A quote: " 'It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia's goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,' said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. 'That's the consensus view.' " It will be interesting to see what the full investigations turns up.

This, coupled with the dark age thinkers he is appointing to his cabinet and the fact he would rather tweet, get mad at SNL, make TV shows than attend intelligence briefings makes for a very beautiful dumpster fire. Interesting times.
 
Posted by Aiwrendel (Citizen # 965) on :
 
Oh my. What?

Russia “influencing” an election? They and other countries have made those efforts for, well, ever. Look at the history of the first USA presidential election and the foreign governments’ efforts to influence it. Look at all of the USA elections and those of any country. Nothing new here.

Trump Tweeting? Yes. So did Obama during his early days as President until his advisors convinced him to stop. I wonder if Trump will stop given the same advice. Who cares. It makes no difference since they were/are not neglecting their duties.

Sorry, Tigranes, no one should feel embarrassed about their opinions.(Although it’s great to hear a forth voice in this thread. [] ) People of thought have opinions based on information presented and filtered by conscious effort to find actual facts. Those without thought glom onto the first biased bits of information to which they are exposed.

I would ask Snöwdog if he read the entire article and what he thought. In fact I will. Snöwdog , did you read the whole thing and notice how it described the same old way people present their bias? Again, nothing new. In the Election thread I mentioned the term “mudslinging”. Look how old that term is.

“racists and the misogynists” Really? Again I’m offended on behalf of 49% of the voters in the USA. I must say, how dare you put that label on millions of people of whom you know nothing. Please stop that. Please? I know many who voted for Trump and none of them have those feeling. None. Quite the opposite in fact. They are people who are concerned about the decline of the economy that the inability of the status quo to rectify it.

Once again, did you read everything in the link I posted. It only takes 10-20 minutes. It’s one of hundreds I've read and certainly not the know all see all way to look at things, but it’s pretty good.. There is a lot of good and false information out there. We need to filter that information with thought.
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
yeah, I read the whole thing. It's perspective was noted. *yawn*

And so it seems the prevailing opinion is that trump knows better than anyone, doesn't need intelligence briefings because he is 'intelligent'. The CIA analysis is considered BS... yeah. well.... off you go.

Gotta love the loaded cabinet picks too. Well.... off you go. Enjoy your guy. I think I'll go make some popcorn and watch the show.
 
Posted by Tigranes (Citizen # 9076) on :
 
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You all know who you are, and it has been quite easy for me to know who you are since the election.
Well, I know what the facts are and what the statistics say.


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I wish you all well with your choice.
I didn't vote for Trump and I disliked him before it was cool, and I think he's probably going to be a bad president.
What I take issue with is 1) the slandering and libelling of people who voted for him, and 2) the insinuation that Clinton were somehow a better candidate, or less corrupt, or less reprehensible or bigoted as a person. It flies in the face of all facts that are out there.
Oh, and 3) the Führerkult around Obama.

Trump's victory is the DNC's fault for choosing such a terrible candidate and pulling strings left and right to promote her instead of better, or at least less offensive, candidates.


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Sorry, Tigranes, no one should feel embarrassed about their opinions.
A grown man should know better than to behave like a child, what with all the unwarranted name-calling and thread re-design. The only excuse I can think of is that nearly all of the Hillary fans out there behaved in a similar way.

[ 12-14-2016, 02:16 PM: Message edited by: Tigranes ]
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
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Tigranes said: "A grown man should know better than to behave like a child, what with all the unwarranted name-calling and thread re-design."
Well, this place (The Pony) is really one big play pen. And since this thread had little to do with trump as President or President Elect, I changed the name to something more suited. If I want to change titles of my threads, it's really up to me. You can start your own if you don't wish the title to change. But why would a citizen of this fair city who only crawls out from under the rocks every six months or so consider starting such a thread. That's cool.

As for those who voted for trump and chose to associate with the likes of the white nationalists that avidly support him, I have two salutes for you. [] []

Thanks for all the good entertainment! []

....and look at Il Don go....

Its only been a few weeks, and he's already grabbed the Statue of Liberty by the pussy and raped her. He's still going off half cocked on twitter about some little thing, talks about himself at the CIA, talks about himself while Mr Bannon is on the NSA. You stupid morons... you really took a dump on yourselves this time. But then, he ain't Hillary, so I'm sure ya'll are happy! []

Edit... and the hits just keep on coming .... that "press conference' today really shows how deep this shallow brain is. But hey... all the white nationalists are coming out of the closet. I still say that all you trumpshirt voters chose to stand in the same wading pool as all those jack asses. Anyway, lets see how much more of the decency America had he can destroy....

[ 02-17-2017, 06:21 AM: Message edited by: Snöwdog ]
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
I'm sure all you supporters are really happy about how these first couple months have gone. [] []

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Now the mad man is lobbing cruise missiles into Syria. At least the fvcks who gassed their own people deserve it, but doubtfully those responsible came away unscathed. Oh yea lets ban those poor people from coning the the USA.

[ 04-07-2017, 04:04 AM: Message edited by: Snöwdog ]
 
Posted by Grimwulf Stormspear (Citizen # 5157) on :
 
I didn't vote for Trump or Clinton. I vocally opposed each candidate from Day One. In the end, many people voted for Trump because the alternative was unacceptable.

Having said that, there's no real point in being "for" or "against" the Trump Administration per se. Some of its policies & practices are good, some are harmful.

Personally, I think Donald Trump is loathsome amateur. I think Barack Obama was a better person, but he, too, was a dangerous & harmful politician. Both came into office as inexperienced egomaniacs, convinced that their personal abilities would allow them to transcend political realities.

IMHO, Trump's election should be a call to reasonable people on both sides of the political spectrum to better appreciate & understand each other.
 
Posted by Éoric of the Riddermark (Citizen # 2302) on :
 
Not sure how I feel about this, but...

I agree with almost everything in the previous post.

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IMHO, Trump's election should be a call to reasonable people on both sides of the political spectrum to better appreciate & understand each other.
Yes, I have a dream...

Anyhow, I couldn't bring myself to vote for Trump or Clinton last year.

As for the 59 Tomahawk salute...I guess we'll see. As a military strike, it wasn't really effective. As a political message, like I said, we'll see how Syria and Russia respond.

In the meantime, I have to admit that I'm enjoying all the thrashing I'm seeing in the big 2 parties. I could hope they're death throes, but that's probably optimistic.

[ 04-10-2017, 02:11 PM: Message edited by: Éoric of the Riddermark ]
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
Nobody admits voting for the guy. []
 
Posted by Éoric of the Riddermark (Citizen # 2302) on :
 
I know a handful of people who have said they did, and see more friends of friends on Facebook who have...but none of my immediate friends or coworkers have fessed up.

If you're insinuating I voted for Trump and lie about it, you're delusional. I was quite vocal in person and online about my feelings on the matter. []
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
Lol. I wasn't 'insinuating' anything about anyone, just making a general observation. I do wonder when people seem to get sore about things thinking it may have something to do with them though. []
 
Posted by Éoric of the Riddermark (Citizen # 2302) on :
 
Wonder away, amigo. Seemed like a reasonable response, given your post immediately following mine.

In related news, my wife and I have learned that we don't discuss politics with parents unless we're prepared to get into epic arguments. Both sets came to visit in March, both sets voted for The Donald, and both sets are pretty zealous in their support.
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
Lol. Good to see you around her Ridder.

And so how many days will it be before the war starts ....
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
....aaaand yesterday this nut made some remarks at the UN about destroying a country... I'm sure all you moronic trumpshirt voters are all right with this....
 
Posted by CloudStrife (Citizen # 3483) on :
 
Look Snowdawg, we all know that the key to defeating Sauron, errr, Kim, is to get on board with the one true ruler who is gonna look out for us, Sarum, I mean Trump!
 
Posted by Wandering Tuor (Citizen # 1685) on :
 
OMG this thread. Gotta love the idea that Trump won't run the government for his own benefit unlike those politicians. []

Also, while it may be true that not all Trump voters are racist, every single one of them decided that Trump's obvious racism wasn't a deal-breaker.
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
[] This administration is basically a robber baron emptying the treasury into his and his frieds pockets. ...and the trumpshirts can only say..."But Hillary... But Bill..."

And no, the racism and the sexual harassment accusations and all weren't deal breakers to stupid people who voted for trump. I still hopd that it implies they accept such, therefore they are.

And the Frontline show on the Russian election manipulations was eye opening.
 
Posted by Snöwdog (Citizen # 15) on :
 
.... so... where are all you trumpshirts a year on? []
 
Posted by Maia Olorin (Citizen # 2354) on :
 
Ah, all the 'fine people' of the Far Right are ok. They're just good 'ol boys, eh? I know a few people who support them. One of them probably used to post here. You know, the ones who'd tie everything up in logical fallacies, sophists giving vent to their sophistry, you know, the American Taliban. Glad I don't live there.

MAGA.
 
Posted by Cernunnos (Citizen # 652) on :
 
Any opinions on 'Fire and Fury'? I'm going to buy it tomorrow.
 
Posted by Braeden Fireheart (Citizen # 1953) on :
 
Make sure you don't get the book about World War II accidentally. []

[ 01-14-2018, 04:17 AM: Message edited by: Braeden Fireheart ]
 


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