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Gollum Gollum
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I know that there are thousands of mistakes in the LOTR movies, but this one is particulary interesting: one doesn't have to know the book and watch the RotK carefully to see it:
When Aragorn's army leaves Minas Tirith, all the soldiers ride. When they arrive at the Black Gate, there are only four people on horses: Aragorn, Gandalf (with Pippin), Éomer (with Merry) and the guy with the banner. Later on, in the "for Frodo" and battle scenes, there are no horses at all...
Is there any expanation for that?

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Aiwrendel
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Maybe the army got hungry on their journey.

Just my way of saying there is no justifying a bad production.

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Maybe the ones on foot were at the back when you see them leave, they'd be hidden by horses. The by the gate they might be at the back and we might not see them. It also makes the heroes stand out not to have them surrounded byother mounted characters. It makes sense from a film POV and can be explained away.
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The PJ apologists explain away most of the PJ fan-fic movies by saying it has to be so in a film POV. []

As far as battle tactics go, it would be hard to assault a fortified gate on horseback, and its always the grunt foot-soldiers that get the hard work. Of course, Sauron would doubtfully opened the gates but would have let them try and get in.

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Much of what happened in the movies was foolish from a strategic standpoint. In this case, the strategic concept and root of the diversion behind marching on the Gates was to infer that Aragorn had taken ownership of the One and was sticking his neck out too far, too soon. In the books this ruse was inadvertently started at Helm's Deep when Aragorn looked into the Orthanc Palantir. PJ blew this whole strategic thread apart however when the Nazgul confronted Frodo and the Ring in Osgiliath. After that, there was really no point in paying attention to the Captains of the West at all. If the Mouth of Sauron was as smart as he thought he was, he'd have just stood atop the Black Gates and lobbed insults at the Captains ala the French in Monty Python's "The Holy Grail".
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Actually, I was under the impression that the entire charge was to save Frodo and Sam. Filwise anyway, totally different to the book.
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Hamfast, the purpose of the march was to buy time for Frodo & Sam. But to do that they essentially ran a scam, a con. They were trying to convince Sauron that they in fact had the One, that Aragorn had declared himself as Lord of the Ring, and that he was intent on replacing Sauron. It worked because that's what Sauron himself would likely have done had the roles been reversed. Sauron took the bait, reacted to it, and the hobbits slipped into the Cracks of Doom undetected. If Sauron knew that Aragorn didn't have the One and that it was with a hobbit, as was the case in the movie because of the Osgiliath scene, then reacting to the Captains of the West makes no sense whatsoever. Let them sit outside the Gates and starve, they are no threat out there.
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