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What it says on the tin.
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My Line: Cause it's really not THAT important to the plot for someone to say "Ain't it cool that Bilbo and Frodo share a birthday?"

Your Line: It is indicative of Jackson's general slap-happy half-dash handling of the precious. He suxors so bad []

My Line: Shall we agree to disagree? []

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I'm in Ney's camp on this one. [] I am way more Books than Movies, but trying to shoehorn in every detail from the book would have made the level of clunky exposition even higher than it already was.

Thank Eru they canned that Bombadil fellow. []

[ 09-23-2011, 11:00 AM: Message edited by: Athene ]

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Aaaaaauuuuuuuwwwww. Still, I've written a little tale with Tom Bombers!

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I suppose it's forbidden to ask questions around here.
The excuse of time-constraints would be far more convincing if they didn't add so much gratuitous fluff. Bilbo wasn't even at the council of Elrond, which is strange that a meeting all about the Ring would exclude the very person who found it.

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That's right. If you ask any questions at all we will call upon an army of crows to divebomb your picnics and drop on your head. It is well that you learned this so early in your time here.

Even if they hadn't added stuff it wouldn't matter to me whether or not the interesting but unessential detail about them sharing a birthday was included.

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"Crebain from Dunland! COVER THE FOOD!" []

However Bilbo was a minor character in the story. Meanwhile Frodo was the main character, so his birthday was not superflous in comparison. Likewise 111 was no significant age among hobbits, while 33 definitely was. Therefore it's not really logical to completely obscure Frodo's birthday with Bilbo's, especially under claim of time-constraints. Finally, The scene presented a transition in focus from Bilbo to Frodo as main characters, so both birthdays were relevant in this symbolic regard as well.

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While I agree with Ney and Donkey Girl that it's a minor detail, it still seems odd that Frodo's b-day was ignored. Especially since it could have been referenced so quickly and painlessly..

Frodo: Happy eleventy first birthday Uncle.
Bilbo: Thank you lad, and to you as well.

PJ spent so much time clumsily dropping in out of context quotes and references in a ham fisted way of trying to remain true to the spirit of the book, it's suprising that he missed this relatively easy chance to give the impression he actually read the damn thing first.

On the other hand, after the 21st, who gives a rats arse about birthdays anyway []

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quote:
Frodo: Happy eleventy first birthday Uncle.
Bilbo: Thank you lad, and to you as well.

I know Frodo looked young in the role, but.....
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But what?
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He wasn't supposed to be eleventy-one! He was supposed to be thirty-three.

You wrote:

Frodo: Happy eleventy first birthday Uncle.
Bilbo: Thank you lad, and to you as well.

Thus implying that Frodo was eleventy-one as well.

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quote:
Thus implying that Frodo was eleventy-one as well
[] Or.. just implying that it's Frodo's birthday as well.

Seriously dude, nitpick much? Sometimes it's ok not to be painstakingly literal and to apply a little common sense. In an exchange between just the two, no doubt the "back at ya" would be understood for what it actually is. Bilbo was old, not senile.

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Yeah, peace out.
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