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Wetwang
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It would appear that a lost writing and sketch by the good professor has come to light concerning the 'true' origin of the Dwarf realms and it would appear that female dwarves had a larger say in their society than was first suspected []
HERE is the sketch of those founding 'mothers'! []

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You know, I never made the connection between Tolkien's founding Dwarves, and Disney's number of dwarfs. That probably really bothered Tolkien, surely he would have noticed the use of 7.
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Could both Tolkien and Disney have been influenced by the Brothers Grimm?
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Disney, certainly - and Tolkien, perhaps : he knew a lot on fairy-tales. And add to that the symbolism of "7" ...
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The Professor is probably rolling in his grave because we are discussing Disney and Tolkien's dwarves!
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That's Disney dwarFs and Tolkien's dwarVEs mister! []
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[ 07-18-2007, 08:18 AM: Message edited by: Wetwang ]

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Although, if you notice, the Dwarves in the Hobbit are subetly different from those in the Lotr.
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The Dwarves in the Hobbit, at least Thorin and Co., were bumbling fools.

But then that may have just been Bilbo's version of the story. []

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The Quest for Erebor shows Gandalf's perspective, of Thorin at least.
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Following up on Tuor's comment, Bilbo, like Tolkien, may have had very different audiences in mind when writing TH and LotR. TH was a "tale" while LotR was more of a "history."
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