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Fingolfin,

That link brings up the notice "Bandwidth limit exceeded." What's on the link and can we get to the same images another way?

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Bethberry, Fingolfin links to an excellent site which hosts some number of pictures set in ME. Unfortunately, it seems that the site has been 'too popular' recently, and exceeded it's bandwidth limit. There are a few other sites with similar archives, such as this, but I would advise you to check Nightrunner every once in a while to see if it is back up.
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Nightrunner is up again, suckers.

I recommend that you all look at this brilliant image.

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At last! I have been wondering forever where your avatar came from []

Check this John Howe paiting. I think you may recognize it as well []

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I do its a rider of the Nazgûl.
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thanks for all those websites.
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I found this site, it seems to have small versions of Ted Nasmith's upcoming paintings!!
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Upon the request of certain "powers that be", I would like to hold a critique of various works of art by artists, both professional and independent. This critiqu is open to all and I would appreciate your own comments. Here's how it will proceed:

I will pick one work every week. We all can then post our opinions, good or bad, about the choosen work, and then move on to the next piece. Please, this is a civil critique and was created to further our knowledge of art construction and style. I would appreciate everyone from refraining from flaming art or artist, and others' opinions, for we all have them.

This week, I have used Fingolfin of the Noldor's site he provided us with to pick a subject. It is the newest addition to the site, by an artist named Sandrine Gestin and is simply titled Galadriel.

Here is the painting.

My critique:

Probably my most favorite portrait of the White Lady.

Style - Medium verism, almost resembles comic book painting style. The hands, the clothing and parts of the face exemplify this best I believe.

Composition - The profile view works well in this situation. For the pose and environment, a frontal view would not work quite as well. With the profile, it makes Galadriel seem more distant from the viewer, making her seem as if she is pondering the matters of Middle Earth. The hands folded, holding the Light of Earendil is a nice literary accurate touch.

The light streaming down from upper left creates excellent implied visual lines down the work, accenting important physical areas of the face. The eye is led down this path and stays within the immediate area. Depending on what Gestin was trying to show with this piece, it works quite well.

Design - Beautiful is the best description of this piece. The soft contours of her face, accented and deepened by the light and shadow create what the etherial elven maiden that Galadriel should be depicted as. Look at the hair! Amazing attention to detail, the way the light plays off the golden strands. The headpiece is very impressive as well, though it is a bit difficult to deserne between the hair in certain areas.

The clothing is smooth, with a minumum of folds. This is partly what creates the lack of verism. The drapery seems realistic but only to a certain degree. This is all a factor of the style that Gestin has and matters little when discussing the overall value of it. Despite this, it is fantastically done. The detail of the embroidery throughout the garment, flowing with cloth. This is incredibly challenging to achieve. Well done.

Color - The complementary color scheme is always good to bring out aspects that you wish to. The overall gold against blue helps you see both the background and the foreground at the same time, and it still be palatable for the eye. The texture of the background is well done, though the elvish loop design is a little distracting and less... elvish, it seems too harsh.

The foreground gold scheme works well due to Galadriel's description as being directly descended from a Vanyar (woohoo! [] ), they were fair to see, and I always pictured them as shimmering in a way.

Overall - Magnificent depiction of Galadriel. The simple coloring is pleasent, the style works well for the subject, and the composition is easy on the eye. I get an overall smooth, soft feeling to the piece. An excellent work.

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Oro - nice crique!! I saw that picture just now actually and it was breathtaking! I very much liked the light and the phial!

btw, this picture is magnificent! It's of Ithilien, and I literally gasped outloud when I saw it. first glance of Ithilien by Ted Nasmith Ted Nasmith does stunning scenery pictures...

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Wonderful Orof! Thanks so much for joining this thread.

This is going to be a very educating experience for me, I hope other art experts will join in soon.

Thanks,
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Sorry to interupt, but I am looking for something. I have never seen a rendering of Nienna or Mandos and would very much like to. I've searched all the links here (except for the one that exceeded it's bandwith) and many others and still I have found nothing. If anyone knows of any site with a picture of Nienna, please let me know. You may respond to me privately so as not to mess up the thread. I am not a painter or sketcher, although if I don't find something, it may come down to that.

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There are many characters, places and scenes in Tolkien's works that sadly have never been illustrated. Nienna and Mandos are probably among those.

EDIT: Well, I looked around and found these of Nienna [] :

http://www.kulichki.com/tolkien/ambar/eglador/gif/nienna.gif
http://lacompania.iefactory.com/destino/bree/personajes/dibujos/nienna.jpg
http://tiles.ice.org/tile_info_disorganized.php?quilt_id=27&tile_id=7937

None of Mandos though. []

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I found another one of Nienna:

'Nienna' by Alexandra L. Konovalenko

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Thank you thank you thank you! Now I have to decide if I want one of these as my avatar or if I still want to hazard a go at drawing myself. If anyone finds any more of Nienna, please let me know.

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Ok, to get this back to where Oro left it.

I shall put in my two pieces of mithril, though it is nowhere near as professional.

Firstly I would like to take note of the hair. The tresses are exquisite. And who else but Galadriel deserves that kind of hair! It was her most striking feature.

Secondly, I am interested in this headband that is depicted, I find it a little odd that there is no more jewellery. Was Galadriel known to be so simple in attire, she was a Noldo princess.

I must agree with you that the side-profile view is the best suited and the colour contrast is very well done. The effect of the light is reminiscent of... (taps head as he can't remember which Era this emulates), especially paintings depicting scenes from the Bible.

Another point is where could this be from? The wall in the background surely is made of stone, and I'm reasonably sure that this can't be Lorien. Maybe from the First Age, but then would she have the light of Earendil? []

Great painting!

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I also would like to ask something:

do you know of anyone who did a good rendition of Luthien? I saw John Howe's version, and though the hair was interesting her face was.......not evlish looking and certainly not what I pictured Luthien to look like. I guess no one will fully capture what I imagine her to be, but is there anyone else you found to do a really good picture of Luthien?
(I didn't care for Ted Nasmith's ones of her either)

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Lillianna, I found a lot on Rolozo Tolkien, here are the direct links: []

http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/nasmith/sil-luthien.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/morrill/beren-luthien.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/michelucci/maggio.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/lee/lee08.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/garland/luthien.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/eiszmann/eiszmann44.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/nasmith/luthien.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/nasmith/luthien_escapes.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/nasmith/safety.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/dambrosio/Luthien.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/strojny/thingol_and_luthien.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/strojny/luthien3.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/eiszmann/eiszmann78.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/eiszmann/eiszmann89.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/ezpeleta/luthien_escapes_on_huan.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/nikitin/petition_pic.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/vegh/tinuviel1.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/wygnanski/Luthien-HuanvsTheWerewolf.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/aguado/Luthien.jpg
http://fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/karr/Luthien_Tinuviel.jpg

And even more on Elfwood, which has the largest archive of amateur fantasy art on the Internet:

http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/k/r/krebs/luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/m/f/mfockens/luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/i/z/izcovich/luthien_a.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/e/l/eliona/luthien_perg.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/v/a/vale83/luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/e/l/eliona/luthien_part.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/w/i/will87/luthien_1.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/l/i/lioni/luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/i/z/izcovich/luthien_final.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/s/o/sofie/luth.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/m/a/matteo/beren.gif.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/h/e/hernan/22-luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/n/n/nnatalia/luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/t/r/tric/luthien.gif.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/k/i/kirsten78/luthiengrey.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/f/u/fudala/luthiens_dance.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/m/a/manning/luthien2.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/l/i/lipatov/luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/k/i/kirsten78/luthien.gif.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/j/o/jodi/tinuviel.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/d/e/dejong/berenluthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/k/i/kirsten78/luthien1.gif.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/a/d/adabb/luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/l/i/lioni/tinuviel_dairon.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/e/g/eglinton/luthien.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/e/a/eagle/leithian.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/k/o/korhonen/sdance.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/v/p/vpiittinen/elfwood_lostoriginal.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/j/o/jodi/vigil1.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/l/e/lehmust/hairspell.jpeg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/n/n/nnatalia/tinuviel2.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/j/a/jasonellis/elf.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/l/e/lehmust/tinuviel.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/j/o/joumana/dancingt.jpg.html
http://elfwood.lysator.liu.se/loth/e/g/eglinton/berenluthien.jpg.html

[] I'm not sure all those have something to do with Lúthien, however.

I'm very sorry if this post cluttered up the thread. []

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Thanks fot the really nice site [] [] []

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Wow thank you so much Maerbenn for going to the trouble! []
Now the question is, are any of those good interpretations of her? []

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Well, it depends on what you mean by 'good', but these look quite nice in my opinion:

http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/morrill/beren-luthien.jpg
http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/aguado/Luthien.jpg
http://img-fan.theonering.net/rolozo/images/dambrosio/Luthien.jpg

But I'm not sure they fit well with the description of Lúthien from The Silmarillion, chapter 19, Of Beren and Lúthien:
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Blue was her raiment as the unclouded heaven, but her eyes were grey as the starlit evening; her mantle was sewn with golden flowers, but her hair was dark as the shadows of twilight. As the light upon the leaves of trees, as the voice of clear waters, as the stars above the mists of the world, such was her glory and her loveliness; and in her face was a shining light.


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quote:
I'm very sorry if this post cluttered up the thread
Not at all, Maerbenn. Space is never wasted when helping someone.

Thank you for your replies.

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Luthien in a bikini was quite an unnerving sight for me... []

there were a couple on the elfwood place that were really really good! I only found 2 that suited me though....

but thanks again for the help.. I really appreciated it.

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Lugburz,

Excellent points. I'm not exactly sure what "Era" you are referring to, I go by style periods and not dates. Since this is a new piece it's a bit difficult to place it within a period but if I'd have to, I suppose it would be a Romantic piece due to the dramatic quality to it, as well as the lighting. Not quite chiaroscuro, but similar.

As for all those Luthien images... no comment. Let's just say I envision more for the most wonderful elven maiden to have ever lived, not to mention a half maiar...

Anyways, I've found a new piece to critique this week. The artist is Abe Papakhian, and the work is entitled, respectfully, "But No Living Man Am I" and can be seen...

...here.

And away we go.

Style: Slight verism, more so illustrative than depictive. It has a storybook quality to it, the fluffy clouds seem to cartoonish. The light source would infere a dramatic quality, as well as the fallen figures exagerrated poses, placing this along the same lines as the Romantic pieces of the 17th and 18th century works, but liberally.

Composition: At first glance, my initial impressions were that the Witch King and his steed were far too large, and perhaps they are. But given the point of view, I think it works well. It's kind of an over-the-shoulder view that adds to the dramatic quality as well. The distant figure of Eowyn removing her helmet, staring straight ahead at the Nazgul effectively creates a feeling of tension that surely must have been present at that time.

There is also a sense of quite within the piece, which again must surely had been there, the "calm before the storm". The battle field is strewn with the bodies of fallen warriors, leaving only two obvious combatants to duke it out. I like it.

However, what strikes me the most about this piece is the fact that there's so much there if you actually look at it. Papakhian is a genius in this sense. If you were to casually just glance at this work and then move on, you wouldn't catch the intricasy of it. Here's what I mean, notice Theoden in the bottom right corner underneath the Nazgul? What about Merry in the bottom left corner under the Witch King's left arm? Papakhian put it all in there.

Of course this is all a matter of the monochromatic quality. Black and white has a tendancy to blend together and make it tough for the viewer to descerne certain aspects of the piece. I believe if Papakhian would have done this in color, it probably would have worked much better in the end.

Design: The value work on this is something to admire for sure. Most notably is the texture of the Nazgul steed. The stroke marks make the skin feel leathery, wrinkled. But what I don't like is that the creature looks grey if not a shade of white. Again this is because of the gray scale.

Other textural eye candies are the Nazgul's clothing, the saddle, and his weapon.

There is an effect called atmospheric perspective that artists use to render depth. That's a main reason I chose this piece. Look at the way the background has a sort of path back to Minas Tirith. As you go farther back, details are lost as well as size, until you are unable to descerne between different people or objects. But here is an important factor. Though it is one of the farthest objects, Minas Tirith itself has somewhat more detail then say, the soldiers. Size and distance need to be balanced in order to achieve success, which I think it has here.

Overall: There are many many factors I could continue to discuss about this piece, but I've shared the main points. Overall I'd say this is a wonderful piece as it is, though perhaps a bit too crowded and slightly flat. I believe if color was added, then it would add a higher overall quality to the work. But from what it does have, the textural quality, the unique view point and take on the subject, and the attention to depth, I believe it's a comparable piece.

Ok you can wake up now, I'm done. []

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Here are my amateur(ish?) comments on the elements of the Papakhian piece that Orofacion posted:

Composition: An interesting perspective on the battle scene, but the Witch King and steed are too imposing in the foreground. This creates a problem of perspective and depth-both the Witch King and his steed should be dark grey or black, but since they're both in the foreground, this can't be done. The artist has used the battle scene effectively to give some semblence of depth, but the dark Witch King remains in the foreground (he is the foreground!). Since this is a B&W sketch, color can't be used to create depth (blues and purples tend to make things recede into the background, whereas yellows and oranges pop them up front).

Eowyn: Having her face the Witch King and take off her helm are nice touches, but her facial features are too coarse. Sharpen your pencil, please!

Does anyone else see a single larger version of the skulls (or ghostly faces-used on the rim of the saddle's cantle) on the back of the Witch King's hood?

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