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The Flammifer
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Pi says:
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As I look at this quote and think of Hobbits' ways, I find it curious that there was a need for the legal profession.
Messrs. Grubb, Grubb, and Burrows were auctioneers, not barristers.

Big difference. . . .

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In keeping with the original ?

Does anyone know if the words 'Orc' or 'Half-elven' are used anywhere in The Hobbit [] (book)

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I'm not sure about Half-elven. My guess is that there are no examples, but I could be wrong; although I think it's suggested that Elrond was descended from Elves and Heroes of the North.

With respect to orc, besides the introductory note to the third edition and the compound Orcrist (both of which I doubt you mean), there are two instances: one appeared in the first edition, Tolkien adding another (when Bilbo tries to escape from Gollum) for the second edition published in 1951.

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Thanks Galin

No, no “Half-elven” in The Hobbit.

And right; two instances of “orc” besides the introductory ed. which I don’t have:

Once at the end of “Riddles in the Dark” and
again just as Gandalf was leaving the Company at the western edge of Mirkwood.

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Those are them!

And for anyone who might stumble over a statement in letter 144 (1954), Tolkien wrote that "(goblin is used as a translation in The Hobbit, where orc only occurs once, I think)"

I guess Tolkien forgot for the moment that he had added one!

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