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Hamfast Gamgee
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I think I have spotted a theme running through the Silmarillion. That theme is mistakes I would dare to suggest. Everyone makes them from the highest to the lowest. The Valar in misjudging and underestimating Morgoth, down to the mistakes that Turin made. And his companions. Plus, of course those made by Feanor and his sons. And Morgoth and Sauron make their fair share of misjudgments. And a whole host of people, wise or not in between! In fact, I am hard pressed to think of anyone who doesn't make mistakes. Huor perhaps? He does do the right thing but is not thanked for doing so!
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When you rebel against Eru's will, you are making a mistake. When the music was played with rebellious themes, the world couldn't help but be played out in a rebellious fashion, but in the end is harmonized. This is why even though mistakes are made, in the end everything always works out right. []
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Hamfast Gamgee
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Trouble is that in the Silm a lot of the time you get oppressed for obeying Eru's will.
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Trouble is that in the Silm a lot of the time you get oppressed for obeying Eru's will.
Tour's bible allegory aside, it wouldn't have been a very interesting story to write if there was absolutely no rebellion. It would have been over in the first chapter.
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Hamfast Gamgee
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A bit like saying that Richard 3rd wouldn't have been much of a play had Richard been a good guy!
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A bit like saying that Richard 3rd wouldn't have been much of a play had Richard been a good guy!
That's for sure. That's for dang sure!
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But then a lot of people in the Silm do make mistakes!
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Drama sells! Who wants to watch and/or read about peaceful resolutions to gargantuan issues? []
On the other hand, who wants to live with the fall-out of good drama? []
I vote for peaceful. []

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Hamfast Gamgee
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Yes, well, I suppose that shows the difference between been in a tale and reading about it. Though it is interesting how often people from the highest to the lowest make mistakes. You could argue that even Eru did in trusting Melkor, then leading the MEs people to deal with him, the Valar make mistakes, as do the Maia, the princes of the Elves, the chief captains of the Elves, the simple warriors of Elves and Man and even the outlaw companions of people like Turin do also. As do the bd guys naturally, Morgoth and Sauron make plenty. Usualy,just as they are in the verge of victory.
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