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evenstarofpeople
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When Beren and Luthien came back to life as mortals, what age did they come back as? Did they come back as younger, or did they come back as the age they'd been when they died? (Or in Luthien's case the age she'd appeared to be when she died, in mortal terms.)
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I would have thought same age, but granted a longer lifespan.
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Relevant entries in the FA time-line:

FA 432: Beren born
FA 466: First death of Beren
FA 467: First death of Lúthien
FA 469: Beren and Lúthien return to Middle-earth
FA 503: Second death of Beren and Lúthien

It looks like Beren just got to continue his life; only 71 years elapsed between his birth and his second death. But then again, we also have this:

'Of the Ruin of Doriath':
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But the wise have said that the Silmaril hastened their end; for the flame of the beauty of Lúthien as she wore it was too bright for mortal lands.
But I don't think they would have lived that much longer without the negative effect of the Silmaril, maybe 10-20 years because Beren would then have been 80-90 years old. Lúthien only lived 34 years as mortal so maybe her age 'became' the same as Beren's when she returned to Middle-earth and thus she also appeared to be the same age as him when she died (because they both died at the same time, or at least in the same year).

[ 06-27-2003, 06:47 AM: Message edited by: Herendil ]

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What was the life span of a member of one of the Three Houses during the First Age? Wasn't it longer than 70 some-odd years?

*goes to look up info himself* []

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Bëor the Old was 93 years old when he died.

Edit:

Marach 94
Baran 91
Malach 91
Boromir 95

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So, 71 years was a shorter lifespan...

Thanks for looking up the info! []

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For a time I searched for a place just with a Topic on Beren and Lúthien. I have found it. I am new here, just accepted, and does anyone here agree that The Lay of Leithian is the saddest love story?? Doesnt have to be saddest, but someone's favorite love story? Anyway, so whats the point of this Topic? Do we talk about B&L's story, talk about their lives together, etc? I just wanted to know. Btw, good work on who ever started this topic. Oh and how do we get an Avatar?

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For you last question you might wish to look here: The Avatar Thread
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Valmordae, this thread deals exclusively with what age they came back at. If you can't find a suitable Beren and Lúthien thread for your purposes you could start one yourself.

Athrabeth Finrod ah Andreth, Author's Notes on the 'Commentary', note 3:
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They [Beren and Lúthien] were both re-housed and sent back to Beleriand; but both became 'mortal' and died later according to the normal human span.

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