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SamwiseGamgee102
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Why did Miriel Serindé died? Did she actually gave all her strengths to her son? And it is written that she wanted to be released from the tiredness of living or something like that, does that mean that even before having her son she felt a strong weariness?
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Sorry, Can't help you on this mate.

I don't remember reading it.


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Luthien Evenstar
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you are talking about the mother of feanor? what i can remember of it you are right, she gave all her strengh to her son, she suffered a lot in labbor, she went to recover from it in loriem and never woke up again
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SamwiseGamgee102
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Yes, that's the mother of Fëanor, sorry for not making myself clear. When I read that part, I understood that she gave her strengths to him(or was it only HER own strength?) but the part where it says that she felt tired of living, was it only because of having no strength anymore after the birth of Fëanor?
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Luthien Evenstar
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Hi Samwise, Now you got me, I think she passed all 2her" strengh to Feanor, becaming weak herself.

Ok I've found a descent description about this event -- "Miriel Serinde, The first wife of Finwë and mother of Fëanor; the birth of her mighty son took so much of her spirit that she went to the gardens of Lórien and passed away.2
I've found that on the Encyclopedia Arda
under Miriel Serinde, hope that helps


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Not only did her fëa pass to the Hall of Mandos, but she refused to come back and be reborn. Finwë was apparently willing to wait for her if she had decided to come, but the Valar cannot make an Elf come back, though they do seem to be able to forbid an Elf to come back, as apparently happened to Fëanor after his death.
Tolkien's rather lengthy, and , at least to me, confusing discussion of this story is in the volume "Morgoth's Ring" in HoME.

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"Say this to Manwe Sulimo,High King of Arda:if Fëanor cannot overthrow Morgoth,at least he delays not to assail him,and sits not idle in grief. And it may be that Eru has set in me a fire greater than thou knowest.Such hurt at the least will I do to the Foe of the Valar that even the Mighty in the Ring of Doom shall wonder to hear it.Yea,in the end they shall follow me.Farewell!"

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quote:

But in the bearing of her son Míriel was consumed in spirit and body; and after his birth she yearned for release from the labours of living. Ana when she had named mm, she said to Finwë: 'Never again shall I bear child; for strength that would have nourished the life of many has gone forth into Fëanor.'
Then Finwë was grieved, for the Noldor were in me youth of their days, and he desired to bring forth many children into the Miss of Aman; and he said: 'Surely there is healing in Aman? Here all weariness can find rest.' But when Míriel languished still, Finwë sought the counsel of Manwë, and Manwë delivered her to the care of Irmo in Lórien. At their parting (for a little while as he thought) Finwë was sad, for it seemed an unhappy chance that the mother should depart and miss the beginning at least of the childhood days of her son.
'It is indeed unhappy,' said Míriel, 'and I would weep, if I were not so weary. But hold me blameless in this, and in all that may come after.'

If the spirit of Fëanor was such that his body would be consumed at his death, then it would have been a great task indeed to have given life to him.

It seems alsothat Miriel gave her skill and dexterity of hand to Feanor.


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