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Gothmog35
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Hey does anyone know if there is any litterature that dedicates any length of converation on the last battle, when Melkor shall return or at least have an educated theory on such? thanks.
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IIRC is there no such thing. Only short references in one of the HoME volumes and in UT.
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No, I wish he wouldv'e gotten around to writing about the final battle, it wouldve been so awesome!
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I agree. It would have been incredible. It is almost enough to want someone to continue Tolkiens works...........almost!

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I'm going from very hazy memory, but I believe I read somewhere that Ar-Pharazon's troops were supposed to return for the final battle, and in Book of Lost Tales II it mentions Tuor the Blacksword returning to the final battle.
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That would be cousin Turin and his black sword.

Tuor used the axe.


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As far as my weak memory recollects, that was changed to Tulkas finally casting down Morgoth. In UT, methinks. Turin Mormegil was from an older draft in LT II.
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Well Tuor is right that it is Turin the Blacksword (Gurthang)

and Tuor used an axe (Dramborleg)

I'm trying to find as much information possible about the prophecy of Mandos, does anyone know where I might find something?


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This legendrium ends with a vision of the end of the world its braeking and remaking and the recovery of the silmarils and the light before the Sun--after a final battle which owes more to the norse vision of ragnaruk than to anything else though it is not much like it.(letter 131)

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Keep in mind the second prophacy of Mandos was only present in the most early manuscripts of the QS in short it was dropped
http://www.minastirith.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000012.html

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Roll of Honor Gandalf the White
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Hmmm, that is definitely exactly what I was looking for. Thanks Fingy

I am in the middle of reading "The Shaping of Middle-Earth" right now, and I'm about to reach that very page


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