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Lomion
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I think people believe Feanor is Great because they are told to think he is Great, besides the Silmarills, what good did he do for anyone? he caused Rebbelion within the Noldor, he threatened the life of his brother, he caused the doom of the noldor, he readily slew the teleri, he left his brother and nephews to cross the hecaraxe.
He was not as great in my opinion as everybody thinks............

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Andrew the Grey
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I agree, though the light of the Trees of Valor contained in a gem is amazing, though the only reason the Silmarils are great is because Ungoliant killed the trees, hence the Vala girl (forget her name) needed the jems to bring the trees to life, correct? So Fëanor had more bad then good weighed against him...

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He was great in skill though not a great person. Remeber he made the palantiri which was beyond the art of Gandalf, Sarumen and Sauron.
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Lomion
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ANyone have ne thing else to say?
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Feanor could have been a great leader if he were not so rash. If he had kept his head on straight, he could've helped the elves alot. But, as it is, his nature prevented him from acting rationally in times of crisis. He was corrupted by the lies of Morgoth, whether or not he intended to be, and for that reason, he made many poor choices.

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It's common in history to tag people's names with 'the Great'. Their names were usually adherent to whatever they were best known for. In Feanor's case, it was the Silmarils.

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Feanor was actually like most other of the most brilliant men of our time, the smarter they were the more excentric and egocentric they became.
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well but having great skills don't automatically make up a good leader do they?
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We have never said great leader just great.
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Norrim
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Still, he ordered to BURN the Telri ships!!!
If it would not be for that, I could excused him almost anything (exept making his sons vow the same vow that he made)

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No one is excusing feanor it is just he had major problems which is a common occurance with brilliant people. (eg Einstein, Franklin, Newton etc.) Actually not that I think about it Feanor is alot like Isaac Newton.
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Now who's going to go tell Feanor that he's not so great? I'll save a spot in the morgue for ya

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who could dis Feanor, maybe he wasn't that great. but his actions led to everything that happened in the history of LOTR
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I think that the title 'Feanor, Burner of wayyy too many ships, killer of wayy too many people, good and bad, creator of the objects that caused the most hell to break loose' is very appropriate. Sorry, I'm still sore about the Kinslaying.
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Though he was good at smithing and all, he was a hot-head, and caused much unnecessary trouble even though he thought it to be good. He was self-centered and jealous of his half-brothers, and horay for Galadriel for refusung him a strand of hair.
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Fëanor probably wouldn't be that terrible if it wasn't for that bad ol' Morgoth's lies!

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Tinelwen
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True, true, but he would still have that pride of his...

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Maglor
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Wasn't Feanor consumed by the fire spirit inside him. This proberly explaines why he went mad.
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Feanor
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I kind of like him. He's a tragic character because he could have been one of the greatest, but for pride. In HoME 4 at the end of the Quenta it says that he returns the Silmarils to Varda to break in order to restore the two trees. I like that redemptive ending.
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Roll of Honor Fingolfin of the Noldor
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I think Feanor epitomizes the saying Pride goeth before the fall. I too have always liked feanor in spite of his actions and more thought it sad.
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