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Roll of Honor The DarkQueen Iauraearien
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He wouldn't tell Gandalf because of the Ring's influence. He might have to give it up. I don't think it should be affecting him SO much already but it SHOULD be having some effect. Leaving it out makes no sense in the context of the TA as a whole.

IMO the fact that JRRT wrote TH first as a childrens book, then LotR second as an adults book, does not mean that you should ignore all the things that tie the two together when filming them.

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In my opinion, it shouldn't be affecting him yet: he wore it only about 3-4 times and Sauron is not yet so powerful.
And I think that he wouldn't mind telling: in Mirkwood he did tell the dwarves about it.

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Only mentioned in passing and I'm sure they no no more about it than he did. He wouldn't tell someone like Gandalf.
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It appears I'll be seeing DOS tomorrow in good old classic 2D at the morning show. There doesn't appear to be anything better on at the theatre. I look at it as going to see a PJ flick rather than a Tolkien story.

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[ 12-25-2013, 03:04 AM: Message edited by: Snöwdog ]

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Try not to enjoy it! []
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I stuck with 2D too. 3D makes my head go all funny. []
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As a PJ fanfic it was ok and I walked out indifferent. It always rains in Bree, the whole pointless love triangle was a waste, and Smaug was cool... except he didn't desolate anything yet.
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[] Yes, Bree must be a horrible place to live.
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It always rains in Bree
Like certain places in Scotland. Or, indeed, Oregon.

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...teleporting elves is stupid enough in the book?
They didn't "teleport" in the book. Elves can move quickly and utterly silently. They quickly packed up and left. Plus they have elf magic to move fires and all of their tables. Well, that's the way I read it.
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PJ fanfic
Perfect description of his "adaptations".

Okay. Enough negativity. I'm going to see it this weekend (using a gift of free tickets, Snöwdog [] )

I like the descriptions of some scenes described here. I think I'll enjoy it in between grimaces at the usual PJ (being kind) "poetic license".

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They didn't "teleport" in the book.
I know they didn;t, but it's as good a term as any for the totally impossible swiftness. I don't believe even elves can move an entire banquet in the space of about 5 seconds. []
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Right, and I agree but since there was no explanation in The Hobbit I had to fill in the blanks with "elf magic". []

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For this is what your folk would call magic. I believe; though I do not understand clearly what they mean - Galadriel

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I think I'll enjoy it in between grimaces at the usual PJ (being kind) "poetic license".
Enjoy PJ holding up his middle carrot and biting it in an 'eff yew' manner. []
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I liked that. [] I've still not spotted the AUJ cameo though. []
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Aw, poop! I didn’t get to see the movie this weekend. Too much work and not enough play.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

Oops. Wrong movie.

I’ll just bow out until I can discuss this from a first-hand perspective. []

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What really hurt my insides was the scene were Legolas was shooting orcs while balancing on the heads of the dwarves in the barrel-scene.
Seriously.
And then Bombur being the rotten cherry on top and doing what my brother described as a "bonus round in a video game".

And (am I supposed to warn for spoilers?) ****/*******-lovestory? Noooo [] []
No no no. No.
That is just terrible.

Other than that I was mildly surprised. It wasn't as terrible as part 1. Still quite shallow, they don't feel half as real as the LOTR movies. But not as annoying as AUJ.

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I'm surprised, Indil. Most people I've seen talking about it prefer AUJ. []
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I suppose this one counts as "fan fiction". Some 30 minutes of plot-relevant, somewhat lore-backed content, and the rest is so-so fanfic, made up of filler, forced conflict, and gratuitous violence, underscored with loud, blaring noise... er, I mean music.

I missed the humour of the original book. They squandered the opportunity of adapting most of the funnier scenes, like the introduction to Beorn. Same as with the Trolls in Part I.

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Tolkien... Humour... No, I don't see it. []
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Why not? The first scene with Beorn (in the book, I mean) is just brilliant. And Bilbo's conversation with Smaug. []

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I don't remember them being particularly entertaining, though those and Riddles are my favourite bits of TH.
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We went to see it for the second time, yesterday. I really couldn't wait for it to be over. It has its good points, but, on the whole, I found it yawnful.
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I watched it some time ago and started watching it for a second time yesterday, but after 15-20 minutes I gave up. It seemed soooooooo boring. Even AUJ I watched three times, but this...? No way.

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I really couldn't wait for it to be over. It has its good points, but, on the whole, I found it yawnful.
My sentiments exactly.
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Well, I finally saw The Wrath of Smaug, I mean Bilbo and the Chamber of Smaug, I mean The Hobbit 2: Judgment Day, no, The Hobbit: The Desolation of Tolkien. That’s it.

The best thing I can say is I found it underwhelming to the extreme. Can PJ manage to make a movie without plagiarizing scenes from other movies? /rhetorical

Bilbo taking off the ring so Smaug can see him without being instantly toasted? Really?

A fight scene followed by a battle then a conflict and throw in a dwarf fetish. And of course PJ had to recycle Legolas sliding down a slope on a shield (or something) while shooting his bow. *yawn*

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