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The White Hand
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We're talking about the Caucasian race.
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There is no such thing.

I guess those billion+ people are imaginary []

[ 12-27-2010, 04:26 PM: Message edited by: The White Hand ]

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Those billion+ people belong to different races, and a lot of them are probably descended from more than one race anyway. Not all whites are Caucasians and not all Caucasians are white. Ethiopians are rather dark, for example.
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Those billion+ people belong to different races, and a lot of them are probably descended from more than one race anyway. Not all whites are Caucasians and not all Caucasians are white. Ethiopians are rather dark, for example.
It seems that you have your own definitions, so we'll stop there []
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It's easy to check. I believe Wikipedia has an entry on this.
Anyway, "Caucasian" is a very antiquated term, even more so than race. Why not use some more appropriate definitions?

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I do: i.e. words that correspond to what people mean according to actual common usage, not what a self-appointed minority believes it should be. When people say "white" or "Caucasian," they what it means-- not an internet article by some 24-year old dropout.

How about something more definitive, i.e. in the dictionary, like at dictionary.com ?

"Cau·ca·sian   /
–adjective
[ Anthropology . of, pertaining to, or characteristic of one of the traditional racial divisions of humankind, marked by fair to dark skin, straight to tightly curled hair, and light to very dark eyes, and originally inhabiting Europe, parts of North Africa, western Asia, and India: no longer in technical use.

-noun
Anthropology . a member of the peoples traditionally classified as the Caucasian race, esp. those peoples having light to fair skin: no longer in technical use."

So it's no longer in technical use among anthropolgists, but it's still a normal part of the English langauge among everyone else.

Also consider:

" white   /ʰwaɪt, waɪt/
adjective, whit·er, whit·est, noun, verb, whit·ed, whit·ing.
–adjective

3. (of human beings) marked by slight pigmentation of the skin, as of many Caucasoids.
4. for, limited to, or predominantly made up of persons whose racial heritage is Caucasian: a white club; a white neighborhood. "


I think that settles it.

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The scenes with Saruman and old Bilbo were actually made in UK [] . Christopher Lee and Ian Holm couldn't go to New Zeland because of their age...
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