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Madomir
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I'm not suggesting PJ will do a good job... just perhaps less bad. []

Movie 2 however will likely be a disaster.

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Again, it's a prequel; the fact that TH was from earlier in Tolkien's legendarium, doesn't remove any of the later material from being used to "interpret" everything else.
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so expect Thranduil to become Lucius Malfoy.
Actually, that's a distinct possibility as long as PJ is in charge. You know, Jason Isaacs who played Mr Malfoy is blonde and looks like some mean English or French nobleman, so for Peter Jackson he will be the perfect Elf. And given how Jackson's glorious team changed Denethor et al...
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Well Thranduil is meaner than Elrond, so Lucius Malfoy would be perfect in PJ's version.
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Again, it's a prequel; the fact that TH was from earlier in Tolkien's legendarium, doesn't remove any of the later material from being used to "interpret" everything else.
[] Yeah, I get it, again, so what? Obviously he can basically do whatever he wants and he has plenty of material to use if he chooses. We all know that. It's my opinion that because The Hobbit is a complete story on it's own PJ's use of outside material may be curtailed, why is that so difficult to comprehend? He doesn't necessarily have to tie it together in the first movie, as long as he has the 2nd Hobbit film he can tie it all together there.
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PJ's use of outside material may be curtailed
The songs "Dreamer" by Supertramp and "Imagine" by John Lennon come to mind. []
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I think "Dream On" by Aerosmith is more appropo. []
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[] You guys are brutal! Look I'm not predicting that PJ and friends will make a movie the represents Tolkien's vision wonderfully. All I'm saying is that due to the nature of the story, I think the chance that the movie won't suck has raised from the 10% chance LotR had, to perhaps 20-25%.
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My feeling is there are two key reasons PJ's Hobbit will be "better" than his LotR, and both are based on our expectations. One, even purists realize the story is a less complex kid's story and so the expectation of an epic of high literature doesn't exist, or at least not as strongly. Two, we know the kind of Tolkien movie PJ makes and our expectations are considerably lower than they were leading up to LotR.

LotR was like expecting your football team to win the division or at least make the playoffs and then they finished in last place or close to it.

PJ's Hobbit is like expecting your football team to finish last or near-last. If they manage to go .500 then you feel pretty good about things.

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I'm just confused as to what makes you think that the story will be isolated to itself, particularly with the back-story of Sauron being expelled from Dol Goldur, Also the LotR movies did set many precedents, such as the ineptness of Dwarves, the harshness of Elrond and the Elves, and the Three Trolls were likewise shown nothing like Tolkien drew them, and trolls couldn't talk. Finally the instant corrupting-power of the Ring (which would also make it difficult to explain how Bilbo could spare Gollum out of pity, if it supposedly drove two innocent cousins to murder each other at the mere sight of it).
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PJ's Hobbit is like expecting your football team to finish last or near-last. If they manage to go .500 then you feel pretty good about things
So it's like the Chicago Cubs? Any Cubbie fans out there?
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I'm just confused
Ok Sarah, I think I found the source of your confusion..

I wrote..
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because The Hobbit is a complete story on it's own PJ's use of outside material may be curtailed
But you read...
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you think that the story will be isolated to itself
My statement is rather moderate, yet you insist on viewing it as an extreme, no wonder you're confused. []
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The phrase "you think" is also moderate rather than absolute, ala "you're absolutely sure." No confusion there... other than with your precedent for thinking it won't change, given PJ's track-record for embellishment. If he can make a wussy-pipped monkey out of King Kong, and Jack Black into an action-hero unrelated to comedy, imagine what he can do with a 3-foot tall Hobbit (or worse: to a 3-foot tall hobbit!) To begin with, he thinks he is a hobbit, just because he's short and stumpy: so he doesn't even know that hobbits don't wear beards and glasses... or even shoes. They also don't undergo Oprah-esque shifts in weight (when they have a choice) []

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So, production will finally begin on the Hobbit on the 21st!
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Um, yay?
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