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The Witch-King of Angmar
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Time-travel is always a joke-- that's why it movies handle it with comedy-duo's like Bill&Ted, Doc&Marty, Kirk&Spock....

However I doubt the SFX were worse than PJ's, whose SFX all reminded me of the Wizard of Oz-- from the "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" red eyeball, to the "Auntie Em!" palantír, to the flying-monkey orcs.

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Time-travel is always a joke
I would have agreed with you a few months ago...But then I saw "Primer." Good thinking man's movie []
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If you're new to the concept.

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If you're new to the concept
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Time-travel movies tend to belabor esoteric pseudo-scientific geekisms-- which makes them such fodder for low-budget cult-films, and blockbuster comedies.
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It's official: Del Toro is moving to New Zealand for some odd years to direct "The Hobbit" and it's sequel []

If you haven't seen "Pan's Labyrinth" yet; do so.

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I saw this great little tidbit on Newsarama today, so I just had to come over here and post on how much I love it!

What a great hire. I'm very much looking forward to a more appropriate dark vision of this book, than the so called children's story vision.

It has man eating Trolls, sadistic Goblins, a devestating Dragon, giant evil spiders, vicious Wargs, a man who can turn into a limb ripping bear, drunken Dwarves, that nasty Ghoul - Gollum, and war. All the right elements to make one hell of a seriously dark and fun movie, just the way I pictured it when I read it.

This has the potential to even out do the legendary Lord of the Rings trilogy. Soon will be time for the purist haters to get beat down again. Another victory for the unwashed majority over the elitist minority. []

YAY! []

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The Deplorable Cultus has spoken.... the movie's not even cast or written yet, and already we hear the candy-assed brown-nose bleatings of paranoid "shoot-the-messenger" film-philes to prematurely polish that forthcoming turd.

"Drunken dwarves?" Geez it's not even in the book, and already SW's spinning Armageddon as "a warm homecoming."

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Drunken dwarves? Geez it's not even in the book
Did you read the same book?
Are you on the same planet as me?
Good to see you again. []

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The Deplorable Cultus has spoken.... the movie's not even cast or written yet, and already we hear the candy-assed brown-nose bleatings of paranoid "shoot-the-messenger" film-philes to prematurely polish that forthcoming turd.


Oh, it'll be polished, and it'll be critically acclaimed, it will make boatloads of mula, and it will be hated by the purists. See, I can tell the future too. []

Oh, and who am I brown-nosing, and what could I gain from it?

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Concerning the influence of Tolkien on his work, Guillermo del Toro has said:
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Not at all. I could barely finish The Hobbit. Curiously, that kind of fantasy, never called out to me. I think that fairy tales are in themselves a different genre. Heroic fantasy, in general, leaves me cold. I am more interested in Robert E. Howard’s work of terror than his novels about the muscular Conan. Although there are two writers of fantasy that I think are sublime: Clark Ashton Smith and Lord Dunsany.
(Source)

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I was never into heroic fantasy. At all. I don’t like little guys and dragons, hairy feet, hobbits – I’ve never been into that at all. I don’t like sword and sorcery, I hate all that stuff.
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not very heartening...
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Seem's they don't call him "del Toro" just because it's his name, but also the poetic appropo.

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Did you read the same book?
Yes, and not once did the Dwarves get drunk. You're thinking of the ELVES-- and only 2 of them, Galion the Butler, and the chief guard.

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Oh, it'll be polished, and it'll be critically acclaimed, it will make boatloads of mula, and it will be hated by the purists. See, I can tell the future too.
And stink to high heaven-- no matter how you try, you can't polish a turd!
You can see the same thing on any downtown street-corner, i.e. pimping.

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Oh, and who am I brown-nosing, and what could I gain from it?

You do THAT on any downtown street-corner too; take it up with the pimps.

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I saw this great little tidbit on Newsarama today, so I just had to come over here and post on how much I love it!

What a great hire. I'm very much looking forward to a more appropriate dark vision of this book, than the so called children's story vision.

It has man eating Trolls, sadistic Goblins, a devestating Dragon, giant evil spiders, vicious Wargs, a man who can turn into a limb ripping bear, drunken Dwarves, that nasty Ghoul - Gollum, and war. All the right elements to make one hell of a seriously dark and fun movie, just the way I pictured it when I read it.

Prepare to have your hopes dashed, or more likely, to have to change your viewpoint on what makes a great Hobbit movie. The film they're making will not be as you described. It will be geared to the same PG-13 age group the LotR was.
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So he doesn't even like The Hobbit? []

Eh. At this point, all you can do is laugh.

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At a funeral.
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You don't need to be a fan of the source material to make a good film. Maybe Del Torro not being a fan will allow him to approach it without bias resulting in a more faithful interpretation.

I suppose we don't know who the writer is yet?

This book is far more cinema-friendly than LOTR, so it will hopefully be more difficult to arse it up.

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It's really not a matter of being a fan, but of having some intelligence, classical education and good taste. Since PJ has all but three of these qualities, he could arse up anything.
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I suppose we don't know who the writer is yet.
Indeed we do.

According to This Article/Interview it will be PJ, Boyens, and Del Toro.

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So basically we can expect more of the same... but worse.
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http://www.syfyportal.com/news425159.html
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Guillermo del Toro wants the films to re-create the spirit of the book.

"I'm trying to be faithful," del Toro said in a new interview with SciFi Wire. "I'm trying to re-create on the screen the feeling I had when I was 11 in my bed reading the book. How excited I got. How great I thought it was. That's what I'm trying to honor."

The films will not be similar in style to the "Lord of the Rings" trilogy, according to del Toro, nor will they be like other fantasy films he has directed, such as "Hellboy" and "Pan's Labyrinth."

"I know that for a fact I gravitated towards the novel," said del Toro. "So there's something there that echoes with me very strongly, which is not the case with most fantasy."

According to Del Toro, the first film, which is scheduled to begin shooting later this year in New Zealand, is still in the early stages of planning and isn't officially in preproduction yet.

"There is a lot of work already being done on our parts," del Toro said, "but real preproduction will not start until late July."

"The news came very joyously during the post-production of Hellboy II," he said about being handed the reigns for "The Hobbit." "But at the same time, it was the most miraculous and beautiful monkey wrench in a lot of things that we were planning, both in life plans that I have to put to bed from now until December in order to become celibate and dedicate my entire energy to 'The Hobbit.'"


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Hopefully, they do not trash this one. I will kill myself if they do. With a chainsaw. And broken glass shards. And Hydrochloric Acid. []

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Can I film that and stick it on youtube, Denton? I wanna become the next Peter Jackson. []
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Having just watched Hellboy - the Golden Army (directed by del Toro) I've come to think he may be the right man to do this. The decision to film in New Zealand is still retarded, though.
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Del Toro's filmography:

Bag of Bones (2009) (in production) (executive producer)
Untitled Alfonso Cuarón Project (2009) (in production) (producer)
Hater (2010) (pre-production) (producer)
Biutiful (2009) (post-production) (producer)
Splice (2009) (post-production) (executive producer)
Rabia (2009) (post-production) (producer)
Rudo y Cursi (2008) (producer)
Lawrence of a Labia (2008) (executive producer)
While She Was Out (2008) (executive producer)
Cosas insignificantes (2008) (producer)
... aka Insignificant Things (International: English title)
Hellboy Animated: Iron Shoes (2007) (V) (creative producer)
Orfanato, El (2007) (producer)
... aka The Orphanage (USA)
Hellboy Animated: Blood and Iron (2007) (TV) (creative producer)
... aka Hellboy Animated: Blood & Iron (USA: DVD box title)
Hellboy Animated: Sword of Storms (2006) (TV) (creative producer)
Laberinto del fauno, El (2006) (producer)
... aka Pan's Labyrinth (International: English title)
... aka The Labyrinth of the Faun (International: English title: informal literal title)
Crónicas (2004) (producer)
... aka Chronicles (International: English title)
Asesino en serio (2002) (executive producer)
... aka Asesino en serio (Spain)
... aka I Murder Seriously (International: English title)
... aka Serious Killer (USA: DVD title)
Espinazo del diablo, El (2001) (producer)
... aka The Devil's Backbone (Europe: English title) (USA)


Embrujo, Un (1998) (producer)
... aka Under a Spell (Canada: English title)


Doña Herlinda y su hijo (1985) (executive producer)
... aka Dona Herlinda and Her Son (USA)
Doña Lupe (1985) (executive producer)

Does anyone know about any of these?

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Laberinto is pretty famous. And gorgeous.
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