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Roll of Honor Miz Lobelia
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I always got the impression from the books that it had something to do with her resemblance to Tinuviel:
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Arwen, daughter of Elrond, in whom it was said that the likeness of Luthien had come on earth again; and she was called Undomiel, for she was the Evenstar of her people.
And if you look at the story of Luthien in the Silm;

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In his heart he called her Tinuviel, that signifies Nightingale, daughter of twilight, ...And he saw her afar as leaves in the winds of autumn, and in winter as a star upon a hill...

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Galin
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I don't think it's known for certain, to date anyway, but Hammond and Scull's Guide to The Lord of the Rings notes: 'Evenstar of her people' means, perhaps, that Arwen was the last Elf of high rank born in Middle-earth, where the time of the Elves is now coming to an end.'

Arwen being born in Third Age 241 is relatively young, although again, I take the insertion of 'perhaps' here to mark that even Hammond and Scull cannot be certain.

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Numenorean Sword Trainer
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I think the term "of high rank" is definitive, while other Elves born later were of the people of the older High Elves.

"Evenstar" would be the first star of the evening, which signals the coming of the twilight, or here, the ending of the Elves' reign in the world, before they returned to Aman. However this begs the question that they knew she'd be the last. Galadriel could certainly fortell much, however.

As Gimli tells Eomer, "You have chosen the Evening; but my love is given to the Morning. And my heart forebodes that soon it will pass away for ever.’"
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Luthien the morning-star, and Arwen the Evenstar.
Here in the real world, they are names of the same bright light in the sky that is Venus.

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Galin
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Gil-galad means "Star light" rather than "Bright Spear", without going into the late, "unpublished" etymology of "Star of Radiance", or the confusion of the two accounts concerning Elvish naming customs.

It took me fours years to get this post just right, and I'll probably still edit it.

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