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Roll of Honor Meneldil
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I the only chapter which i thought was Very good before Aragorn turned up was 'In the Huse of Tom Bombadil'
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I know it's not realy a chapter, but for first time reading I don't think the Prolouge is necessary! I always advise first time readers to skip this and head straight into chapter one.

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*waves at square g* []
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I think I'd have to say "In the house of Tom Bombadil". The chapter has no meaning to the rest of the book whatsoever.
Yes, I agree. On more than one of my re-reads I have either skimmed over or skipped The core of this chapter. Sure, he got the hobbits out of Old Man Willow and the Barrows, but there was little more that it added. And these events only served to bring in Tom and say farewell to him in the first place.
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It appears many think that we could do without the Bombadil chapter. I guess (but I hate) to agree with this thinking.

Although he is an enigma and a very strange but likeable fellow he seems to serve little purpose in the tale. A large part of what makes Tolkien’s work so supreme is his detailed character development which causes us to become deeply involved with them and the events of their lives. But Bombadil, although apparently having a supreme power, seems to have few desires for the goings-on outside his “own land”, gets little expansion.

I’m sure Tolkien gave Bombadil little development purposefully that we may draw our own conclusions and many of us may have an apathy toward him.

Perhaps those who don’t care for Tom Bombadil simply because they don’t know him well enough?
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Perhaps those who don’t care for Tom Bombadil simply because they don’t know him well enough?
Or don't care to know him any more than they do. As a poem, it works ok, and dod bring in some interesting aspects like Old Man Willow and the Barrow Wights, but if the whole block of Tom is left out of the book, the story still carries on great with very little lost. []
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I agree that the Bombadil chapter seems pointless, but IMO if it was left out, then introducing the character would make no sense and he shouldn't be there at all (PJ and his [] fan would probably agree). But I like Bombadil, mysterious as he is.

If I had to cut sth out, it would be either "The Field of Cormallen" or "Many Partings"

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Without Tom Bombadil, certain scriptwriters found it impossible to explain how the One Ring could be an all-corrupting influence yet Faramir could refuse to be corrupted.

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I am in too great doubt to rule. To prepare or to let be? To prepare for war, which is yet only guessed: train craftsmen and tillers in the midst of peace for bloodspilling and battle: put iron in the hands of greedy captains who will love only conquest, and count the slain as their glory? Will they say to Eru: At least your enemies were amongst them? Or to fold hands, while friends die unjustly: let men live in blind peace, until the ravisher is at the gate? What then will they do: match naked hands against iron and die in vain, or flee leaving the cries of women behind them? Will they say to Eru: At least I spilled no blood?
'When either way may lead to evil, of what worth is choice? Let the Valar rule under Eru!
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We could say Faramir refused to be corrupted, yes. He rejected the opportunity to seize The Ring.
Others refused The Ring (and its corruptive qualities): Gandalf and Galadriel for example; Aragorn too.

Who was corrupted by The Ring: Gollum; Frodo (in the end); Isildur (to an extent).

Bombadil was above and beyond (out of sync we might say) with all other characters, as he was not only NOT affected by The Ring, but had a singular power OVER it. []

What a jolly old fellow and his boots were yellow. []
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