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Of course the flim's historical content is wrong. It's a ficticious version based on a historical event. Artistic liberty, etc.
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I'm not criticizing the movie for historical inaccuracy; I understand that it's a Hollywood movie based on a comic book. I'm asking what the alleged inaccuracy is. Specifically, I'm asking what was meant by the statement that the "outcomes" are wrongly depicted. Did Greece not really defeat Persian at Plataea? (sp?)

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Gee, Maha, no kidding? []

The AP reports:

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'300' Conquers Box Office for a 2nd Week
Sunday March 18 10:12 PM ET

Spartans continued to fend off the box-office competition as the battle epic "300" took the No. 1 spot for the second-straight weekend with $31.2 million, according to studio estimates Sunday.

The Warner Bros. movie, the story of vastly outnumbered Spartans defending against Persian invaders, shot past the $100 million mark after just a week in theaters, bringing its total to $127.5 million.




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And I wasn't really speaking to your views, WT, I was pointing out the obvious in reference to the silly Iranian journalist.
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Well you said "of course it's not accurate" in response to his claim, so does that mean you know what he was referring to? If so, can you fill me in?
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I was just referring to the movie as a whole.
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Oh everyone should stop whining. It was a GOOD movie. And I mean GOOD. Your eyes bug out at the glorious effects and battle scenes....it was like...a visual orgasm. No joke.

And it's SO over exaggerated....omg like Xerxes....geez....of COURSE it's exaggerated. It's based off a comic book. And I actually liked how it had the fantasy element to it.

It was just a gorgeous film, all around. Soooooooo good!

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Your eyes bug out at the glorious effects and battle scenes....
...and the pretty naked people with swords. []
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well, yeah they are ripped, for sure. But honestly, I was more in awe of the camera angles and speeds. []
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...and the pretty naked people with swords. []
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Oh, and great way to put it, Lilli. []

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There are many bootleg copies of The "300" being sold in Tehran. Let's assume the people buying them love movies first, and controversy second. They want to see a film that their Islamo-fascist country would never make. As for their anger, it seems to be more about how the Persians are portrayed: monstrous, piercings, slave girls, deformed slaves, etc. Leonidas was right. Who wants to be a part that type of empire?

As for the Iranians, I can't see why they want to get upset. The people of Iran today may not technically all be descended from actual Persians. There have been 2,500 years of inter-marrying with other groups. The influence of the Moslem religion has added to this, as well as the Persian Jews known from Esther story (origin of Purim). They should not get so worked up over something that happened more than two millennia ago. They should concentrate on their lives and trying to get that tyrant Ahmidanijad out of power. He hurts Iranians more than any Hollywood film could.

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This is hardly the first time...

To be fair to the Iranians, I remember the outrage that was caused by U571 when it came out in this country. Of course, 300 is based on a comic book and is specifically presented as not accurate, whereas U571 was presented as historical fact, but perhaps the Iranians aren't aware of the comic book or of the fantasy element of comic books.
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"In his 1927 epic Napoleon, director Abel Gance showed his hero at the Club des Cordeliers when the Marseillaise was first sung. He was informed that Napoleon had not been present. 'He is now,' he said."

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Odd bump, I know, but...

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I often think that the events of 1066 would make a supurb film for Hollywood, I mean the Historical implecations, the drama of the occasion, the differenting opinions, which side would you be on etc, but for some strange reason, Hollywood has never made a film out of it.
1066 the Movie

I'm a little afraid, given what little I can tell about the movie from the website (like helmets pictured that are anywhere from 1 to 4 centuries out of date).

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Well, I suppose I should have paid attention to the phrase 'be careful what you wish for because you might get it', because now that I look at it I am a little nervous about what might be in this movie. Given Hollywood's record of historical innacuracies in films eg Braveheart I am now wondering about just exactly what they will do with this tale. I suppose that one can hope that it will be reasonable.

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Actually, I am now feeling a lot better about things, in general.

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I wouldn't bank on "reasonable." Who knows, maybe the Englisc will be portrayed like the Norse were in the recently released Pathfinder, with orc-like armour, huge downcurving horns on their helmets, and insatiable bloodlust. My understanding is that was the general portrayal of the Anglo-Saxons in a recent "King Arthur" movie (can't remember which one). []
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But I thought the motto of my Viking ancestors was, "Rape today: pillage tomorrow!" That's not right??

Or, "A rape a day, keeps the Herpes away!"

They didn't actually have feelings, did they?

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My understanding is that was the general portrayal of the Anglo-Saxons in a recent "King Arthur" movie (can't remember which one).
Could it have been the one called, um...King Arthur? []
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No, that was the PBS animated special about Arthur the Aardvark.
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Éomer> I think so. Is that the one with the ridiculous woad-clad Keira Knightly as well? If so, that's the film, and I haven't seen it. []
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Yup, that's the one. It's okay (the Director's Cut, anyway). Not really a cinematic masterpiece, but not really the worst movie ever, either.
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Yeah that didn't look good.

go see Children of Men instead. Totally unrelated, but a breathtaking film (and I daresay a better choice for Clive Owen) nevertheless.

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That was a great movie!
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Yes it was, and it has MUSE in the soundtrack!
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