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Thingol of Doriath
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If people do not take anything I post seriously anymore, I would like to point out that this was not my idea; it was presented in Amon Hen by one Mallow Smith.
Oh... I'm just pulling your leg a bit. [] No harm, no foul.

As Eluchil said, it is quite a stretch. Plus "For Ronald" doesn't mean anything. My theory("Far Noldor") actually would make more sense. []

If we went around scrambling combinations of Tolkien names... you could basically come up with anything and everything. Who knows... one might even find the Entwives.

*wanders off to scramble "Brown Lands", "Teleporno" and "Treebeard"*

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Plus "For Ronald" doesn't mean anything.
It would mean that Tom Bombadil is 'for Ronald' - that Tom Bombadil is Tolkien, that Tolkien inserted himself into his creation.


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If we went around scrambling combinations of Tolkien names... you could basically come up with anything and everything.
I agree, but in this case we are dealing with two names for the same character, and the character happens to be the most mysterious in Tolkien's works.
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It would mean that Tom Bombadil is 'for Ronald' - that Tom Bombadil is Tolkien, that Tolkien inserted himself into his creation.

It would also mean that he refers to himself in third person... a la Knuckle Dragger, and uses one of his three names that I've never heard him go by.

No, no... I can't buy this. [] At any rate, it doesn't explain who Tom Bombadil is within the confines of the mythology.

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It would also mean that he [Tolkien] refers to himself in third person...
But is that not more natural to the reader than referring to himself as 'me'?


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... [Tolkien] uses one of his three names that I've never heard him go by.
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This ['Ronald'] was the name by which Arthur and Mabel came to address their son, the name that would be used by his relatives and later by his wife. Yet he sometimes said that he did not feel it to be his real name; indeed people seemed to feel faintly uncomfortable when choosing how to address him.
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At any rate, it doesn't explain who Tom Bombadil is within the confines of the mythology.
But it may be that Tolkien did not have a place within the mythology in mind for him. We should not just look for such an explanation for Tom, but also exterior explanations.

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Coincidence. I just can't imagine it.

Has any of our language masters taken a look at these other names? Are there meanings for them?

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Reader's Companion, Nomenclature:

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Forn is actually the Scandinavian word for '(belonging to) ancient (days)'.
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Orald is an Old English word for 'very ancient', evidently meant to represent the language of the Rohirrim and their kin.

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