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Roll of Honor Thorin
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I stumbled across this story at the Tolkien Society regarding an ancient golden Roman ring, complete with inscription and curse. It's called the Vyne Ring.

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The ring was discovered in the late 18th century by a farmer at the remains of the nearby Roman town of Silchester.

No one knows quite how the ring came to The Vyne, but its story did not stop there. By an extraordinary coincidence, just a couple of decades after its discovery, a Roman lead tablet bearing an inscription about this very ring was found at a temple site at Lydney in Gloucestershire. It was engraved with a curse imprecating woe upon the person who had stolen the ring.

The original lead tablet is now at Lydney; but alongside this ring in the little cabinet is a replica, so the two can be admired together.
By 1928 the great archaeologist Sir Mortimer Wheeler was at work excavating the rich finds at Lydney where he was told the tale of the two finds.

And, so some conjecture, it is almost certain that he would have passed this exciting story to another who was advisor to finds at Lydney – an expert in early English – an Oxford don, named Tolkien.

Some people are wondering if this “cursed ring” could have influenced the Professor regarding the One Ring. Perhaps. Perhaps Plato’s Ring of Gyges and / or Wagner's Ring as well. Anyway, I thought it was interesting.

National Trust

Now feel free to joke about symbols of ultimate evil being preserved in the UK.

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This is it!

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Amasingly ugly Venus. []
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Now that i think of it, it is pretty ugly. []
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Why are they so sure it's a Venus? []

Mightn't it just as well be a hobbit? []

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Perhaps that's Venus... or Lúthien Tinúviel... carved by someone Evil, Evil, Evil!

I'm afraid we must now go to Hawaii to drop the Ring into a volcano. Oh, this will be sooo much better than Mordor!

[ 06-22-2006, 03:16 AM: Message edited by: Alatar the Blue ]

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Personally, I get the feeling that this speculation on the One Ring idea may be more advertising than scholarship. I would be more inclined to believe of the Vyne Ring's influence on Tolkien if there were some hard evidence that the Professor and Sir Wheeler discussed it. We don't even know if Tolkien knew about it.
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quote:
some conjecture, it is almost certain
... doesn't sound like the most thorough kind of research to me.
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Mightn't it just as well be a hobbit?
Was Sauron aware or interested, at the time of the creation of the ring, in Hobbits, enough to encrave them on his ring?

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Do you have quotes, woman? Do you?

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I think I'll just repeat
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some conjecture, it is almost certain
Works in both cases []
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I've always wanted to visit the National Trust.

I understand they are also displaying a soap impression of a woman, which was donated by her husband, who was fond of standing in crowds wearing multicolored mirrors on his hobnail boots.

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*favourite Beatles song*

E: But I thought he'd eaten it?

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Yup, it's a paradox.

If I remember correctly from reading the Anthology book, that song actually started out as three different song ideas by Lennon. He could not figure out how to finish any of the three, so he sewed them together into one.

A Day in the Life was also "sewn together" from two song ideas.
The first and last parts were written by John, and the middle part was written by Paul.

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