OK, so I happened to be looking through my spam email folder, when I noticed something that mentioned Minas Tirith and looked to actually be written by a person. After checking it out and following the trail of breadcrumbs, I've made a little discovery.
Apparently, one or more people who claim to have been cyber-bullied at the hands of some of our citizenry have been cutting and pasting comments to that effect far and wide. Google "minas tirith cyber bullying" and witness the work of some idle hands.
Now, anyone who has been here long enough to know my personality knows that the last thing I want to do is encourage confrontation or retaliation. Since it was right out there in the open for anyone to see, I felt I had to go on record with my official statement on the matter, even though the fact that I only found out about this after scanning my spam bin should show you the lack of success in whatever the goals were here. I only draw attention to it since it may 'accidently' be discovered by others.
My statement is this: I've heard a few things about people harassing people in real life. I don't have any details and I wouldn't know what to believe if I did. If it's reported here and it happens here (and if I agree that such words are harassment), then it is dealt with here. There have been cases where allegations have been made, but there has been little evidence to back them up. Honestly, I don't have any special insight into who might be a troll, a sock puppet or someone who just wants to watch the world burn. All I know is what I can see in posts, and I react accordingly. There may have been conversations here that tipped the scales on pointless stupidity, but I have not witnessed cyber bullying. That is not to say that it didn't happen online, through emails or in real life. But it has nothing to do with Minas Tirith.
Now, my opinion on the cyber bullying smear campaign of Minas Tirith is that it's either the misguided attempt by someone to 'get their story out' or 'not let them get away with it' OR it's an attempt to troll and spam misinformation across a wide an area as possible in the hopes that somehow it might hurt the site and thus hurt some specific individuals via osmosis.
The relative success or failure of this is not the issue. It's the fact that Minas Tirith as a site is not responsible for the actions of its members. I can't control people. I can only delete posts that have been brought to my attention and ban those who cause trouble for the site. That's it. Whatever lame attempt to somehow link MinasTirith.com to cyber bullying via high Google ranks is bound to fail, but more importantly is not deserved.
There is a lot more that could be said, and more details will follow, but at least the discussion can begin.
From: Chicago | Registered: May 2000
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Well, that's an eye-opener and no mistake. It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. An anonymous attack on the city, backed up by absolutely no proof, by someone who purports to be 52 years old. The internet can be a pretty rough place, and unless you have the resources and will, the cowards get away with their mischief.
Registered: Jul 2002
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Very surprising. Equally surprising as the baseless charge against the city proper are the individuals mentioned (one of which is a user name out of use for years).
This sort of thing happens far too often these days, not just on the net but in RL as well. People take legit issues, ie: racism, rape or in this case bullying, and exploit the public's sensitivity to those real problems with false or frivolous claims. Far too often, public opinion has a decided 'guilty til proven innocent' bent to it in these cases; look to the Duke University lacrosse team rape accusations as an example. There's a decided PC influence at work, we're programmed to be offended by this stuff in general so the tendancy is for people to get outraged by the claims before determining their validity. Far too many people get offended simply because they think they're supposed to.
Fortunately it doesn't appear this particular false claim is going to gain much traction.
From: northern hemisphere-ish | Registered: Jan 2003
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Well, I think anyone who knows MT knows it's a load of rubbish, as will anyone who looks around. What a ridiculous thing to try to do. Probably a disenchanted ex-member with nothing better to do, or something equally stupid.
Tis a shame that orcs will try to damage the White City, but I for one will defend her and her citizens. I've spent many a happy hour within these walls.
Then again, I don't think there'll be much need for defence this time, it's just too stupid for words.
When I googled "minas tirith cyber bullying" all I got was a reference to this thread, which suggests that this kind of silly nonsense doesn't hold people's interest for long-they've probably moved on to the next scandal, or are staring at the nudie pics of Prince Harry.
From: Moscow | Registered: Jan 2003
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quote:When I googled "minas tirith cyber bullying" all I got was a reference to this thread...
Google the phrase without the quotes.
I didnít look at all of the content they presented. Did they cite specific examples, threads, or posts to back up their claims? (Iím at work and donít go to YouTube on this PC.)
I just read a certain thread on MT with posts from 6/26/2012 - 6/27/2012 by four citizens that refute the claim of bullying. Their comments seemed to contain only calm logical adult behavior. Well, thatís one. Again, where are the examples to substantiate the allegation?
From: Chicago USA | Registered: Oct 2001
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