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White Gold Wielder
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Well, the First Age of Avatars is coming to an end. Much like Morgoth pissed off the Valar enough to make them start the War of Wrath, the current workload of keeping avatars updated is enough to wage my own war of wrath on the outdated way avatars are assigned! Huzzah!

OK, enough of that. [] (Please read the end of this post if you don't need the recap!)

I first began thinking seriously about this when I made this post in the old avatar thread. After some meditation on the subject, I came up with this:
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OK, here's the plan for avatars. I am doing the research on this now, with one technical part in particular that I am studying.

I see a screen much like the current Avatar Gallery except with some additional features.

I'm going to add page numbers so you can easily jump to a later page of avatars. I also see a few buttons that allow you to filter it to view only available avatars, only taken avatars, or all avatars. Taken avatars would have a colored border (red?) to distinguish them.

Clicking on a taken avatar would open a new window with that person's profile. Clicking on an available avatar would could a popup to appear asking you if you are sure you want to change avatars. Once you hit 'OK', your avatar will be changed.

Restrictions would be in place so you couldn't get an avatar unless you were a Guard of the Citadel. This should prevent newbies who have no intention of staying here from wasting avatars.

As far as changing your avatar often, I don't see it as a problem. Some people already make 3-4 change requests per month. I have always tried to honor them all, so if there was no work on my part, I wouldn't mind at all.

I would only have to add any new files to the avatar directory, which is almost no work at all. If someone happened to grab your new avatar before you could, I could intervene in these rare cases.

Sound like a plan?

Some more research led to this:
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OK, getting closer on the Major Avatar addition. Here’s the update:

I’ve got a good idea on how I’m going to implement the new programming, but I need to make some decisions on how I am going to organize almost 1400 avatars when the gallery can only display 42 at a time.

I’ve decided on a file naming convention that I’ll need everyone to follow if they want the avatars they create to filter properly.

A B C D E F - G.gif

A B: Avatar Author
00 = Unknown or Misc avatar creator
01 = Fingolfin’s
02 = fran’s
03 = Perhaps some future major avatar contributor

C D E F: Standard Numbering
This can be whatever the avatar creator wants to use to keep their files organized. For example, fran could use C and D to signify major movie characters (00 for Aragorn, 01 for Gandalf…) and use E and F to increment which number image we are on (0000 for the 1st Aragorn image, 0102 for the 3rd Gandalf image…). Two digits should be MORE than enough when you consider that C D E and F don’t have to be digits. Once you pass 0 - 9, you can continue with A - Z for a total of 36 choices for each. When you consider that C and D alone have a total of 1296 possible combinations, you can see that this will be more than enough to organize your avatars any way you want.

Fingolfin could keep his basic structure by allowing C to stand for his high-level organization he currently employs (0 = People, 1 = Places, 2 = Tolkien’s Art, 3 = Tolkien the man, 4 = Other). He would still have D E and F to further break down his images if he wished.

- G: Duplicate Numbering
This is how we will group avatars that are deemed too similar to allow multiple people to have them.

For example:
 - = 014848-A.gif
 - = 014848-B.gif
 - = 014848-C.gif

I feel - G should always be a letter, with -A as the default. 26 possible versions should be more than enough for any one image!
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The initial re-naming process will be a bit of work, but after that it shouldn’t be a chore. A good renaming program can be found HERE, but there are tons of other ones out there. Pick one you feel comfortable with.

Even if we discuss this naming convention and decide to make some changes, the files are going to have to be renamed somehow before this new avatar process can begin, so Fingolfin and fran should begin to think about how they want to do this. I am available if you want me to rename the files, but your input is at least needed on the organization decisions.

Fingolfin: Don’t make any changes on your server at this time! If you are ready, rename them on your local computer and upload them into a separate holding directory.

So, what do you think?

I decided that a new thread would be best for keeping things organized (and finally closing that almost-5000-post monster thread doesn’t hurt).

Please post any questions and suggestions for the development of the new avatar process here. It might also be best if you posted your outstanding avatar request again here. So much time has passed since the last update, that some have changed their request several times. Help me start fresh and not spend time trying to figure out everyone’s last request. Once development is complete, these will be added to the avatar list and be immediately available.

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Hylian Hero
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Quick Question...Will the Old Avatar Thread Remain Sticky?

E-And after reading the Last Sentence my "Outstanding Avatar Request" from Far back would be this in case you update Avatars BEFORE the new age....
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Good work WGW....

[ 06-22-2004, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: Hylian Hero ]

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Roll of Honor Éomer
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quote:
It might also be best if you posted your outstanding avatar request again here.
Allow me to be the second ( [] at Hylian Hero) to post my avatar request in this new thread. Just in case it got lost or something, because the last time I requested it was several months and about 20+ pages ago:

I, Éomer, Citizen 2824, would like this as my new avatar:
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Thanks muchly, WGW! []

[ 06-22-2004, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: Éomer ]

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Eöl i Moriquendë
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'My Request.'

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Ingaran Nolofinwë
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My Request

Thanks

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La-Brendel
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My request!

[ 08-12-2004, 08:38 PM: Message edited by: La-Brendel ]

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Anoren Anarinwa
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The new system sounds great! It seems very well thought out, I'm sure it will work well!
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Iris Brandybuck
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My request!

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Erufailar
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The picture I want as my avatar fits the requirements in every way-except one! It is 17.6 KB and I don't know how to shrink it! Can someone help me?

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edit: Thanks Anoren Anarinwa! [] My avatar is now ready! So, if you would honor me, White Gold Wielder, I request this as my avatar.

[ 06-22-2004, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Erufailar ]

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Arien the Maia
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Eruf, contact Fingolfin, he'll help you []

I, Arien the Maia, citizen number 4218 request this as my first avatar []
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Cheers to fresh start []

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La-Brendel
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Lady Baggins, that avatar is currently taken by Morwen citizen 1625.
You should try looking through the gallery before posting []

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Anoren Anarinwa
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Here you go, Erufailar. This should be under the correct limit. []

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Faramir Took
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I was having trouble loading that image into Photoshop CS.
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Estel the Ranger
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two things

1) how does one become a Guard of the Citadel?

2) how do you get an avatar?

cheers

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Read the Faq!
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Elrond
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I would like to keep my old request of Avatar number 436 on Fran's page... er, maybe it's 456... it's either one of the two! []
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White Gold Wielder
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Can you post the image? Makes my life easier and it's good practice for you. []
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Hylian Hero
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436-  -
456-  -

I think the First might be the one he wanted....

[ 06-22-2004, 09:45 PM: Message edited by: Hylian Hero ]

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Roll of Honor Éomer
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Actually, I think Elrond meant 463, not 436, which would be:

Bah! Go post the picture for yourself, Elrond. []

[ 06-22-2004, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Éomer ]

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Ingaran Nolofinwë
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I think that the first one HH posted would go well with Elrond.
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White Gold Wielder
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Which is why I wanted Elrond to say for himself so we wouldn't have to guess.

BTW, I updated the FAQ with the current events concerning avatars.

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Roll of Honor Éomer
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Well, I remember him posting that avatar in the last thread anyway.
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Elrond
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Éomer was right with my request... sorry! []

I'm sorry White Gold Wielder!

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Roll of Honor Éomer
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So what is your request? []
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Elrond
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The one you posted!
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